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Gee, that’s too bad. It would be a real shame if that piece of human garbage Steve Huffman lost everything. A crying shame.
Sadly I’m sure he already has a golden parachute prepared.
They all cashed out after the IPO. They’re probably laughing at the bag holders right now.
There may still be lawsuits, however. There are still many ways that he could lose a lot of what he gained.
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I think you mean presidential pardons
i remember spez and his c-suites dumped the stock a while ago.
He’ll cry his way to a trophy home and yacht
I can’t even think of a time in history where someone was a huge piece of shit in America and “lost everything.” Maybe R Kelley, P Diddy, and Bill Cosby? But only for the time they spent in whatever rich guy jail they got to go to and then they were fine.
Elizabeth Holmes comes to mind. She manoeuvred herself into a position of wealth and power by defrauding other rich people and got herself 11 years in prison for it. That’s 11 years more than most other rich scumbags get.
And that just goes to show:
The only time rich people are held accountable in the US, is when they fuck with other rich people’s money.
The most bizarre part of the Theranos scandal is that any medical lab tech/scientist could have told you, right from the initial pitch, the entire thing was a massive scam. There was literally no reason to ever think this technology was feasible and a mountain of reasons it wasn’t.
Elizabeth Holmes only got in trouble for lying to people who should’ve done their “due diligence”
The patients / families of the patients that Theranos lied to and mislead never got justice.
i read an article when the theranos sht has been going down, around 2016, look how long it took to charge her. a patient hormone level was higher than normal indicating some form of malignancy, she took chemo only to find out she dint have any. and another indicating her bizarre behaviours too.
Tech execs have absolutely massive egos.
her pitch was single droplet of blood to diagnosis diseases.
The worst of all this is that from the top of our heads we came up with a woman and three black dudes. Other than Madoff I don’t remember any white dude getting any deserved retribution other than the recent United Healthcare CEO.
But after that 11 years didn’t she come out of prison still rich?
She went into prison in 2023 so she will be there for a while yet.
I don’t think her wealth is known exactly but she and her company lost billions during the scandal.
She married a hotel heir, she’s still doing fine.
She was also just on the cover of People or some other such supermarket cash register rag.
I mean she stole from rich people so I hope she’s doing good
and not the patients live she ruined, even caused harm to, in one article a patients certain hormones was extremely high , indicative of type of reproductive cancer.
Madoff died in a jail cell, that’s gotta count for something.
Yeah that’s cool and good. Same with Epstein.
Except he didn’t live long enough to rat anyone out. That’s the only downside to that story.
He was 100000% assassinated
ghislaine is still alive, she isnt talking though.
I shit, I didn’t know Madoff died
There is also something about those 3 people I can’t put my finger on….
lol that was my immediate thought too. But I didn’t want to bring it up because even with the racist implications those guys all definitely suck and should be in prison.
I don’t know if Sam Bankman-Fried is a huge piece of shit. He’s definitely a liar and a scammer though. But he was like rich as anything and then lost it all. Now he’s trying to curry favour with Trump to get out of jail.
If anyone is trying to gain favor from trump that’s enough to tell me about their character.
Also, yes sbf is a huge piece of shit.
Ewww
Lets keep this about Rampart.
Heve Stuffman
Greedy pigboy flew too close to the sun.
I too want to board the schadenfreude train. Choo choo. Fuck u/spez
He will exit filthy rich way before that. That’s the point.
Would he not have already sold most when they went public?
They’ve banned all of the good people that made up the site. I used to do Secret Santa. For 10 years! And I had mothers thank me for making their kids holidays. And they banned me. Because I made a death joke about how old McConnell was. Dude looks like death walking. Prove me wrong.
I was a good user. Dark humor isn’t hurting anyone. Reddit will die. Just like every other popular site.
I left Reddit today. I’m not looking back. I’m absolutely done with these organizations that bow to fascist whimsy and demands. Pathetic stuff from Steve and the admins at Reddit. I hope their stock tanks and they lose their ass.
Reddit banned me for saying mean things about Elon and I’m not going back. Good riddance.
Same reason I left. Why hang around to get yelled at by bots about “living in a liberal Reddit echo chamber” WHILE the entire site is sucking fascist dick the entire time?
I remember when I got banned for saying that hey maybe it isn’t hate speech to say that Israel shouldn’t murder children.
Israel has killed more women and children than any other demographic. They have committed a genocide and the US president has called for an intensification and expansion of the genocide. Even going so far as to say he wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
“You have been banned from r/worldnews for antisemitism and hate speech.”
I was chasing in R/pics that the OP was barking up the wrong tree about Gaza, blaming of course Biden but no Republicans ever
WTF. It’s israel’s right to murder innocent people! /s
Everything he does basically invites people to say mean stuff about him.
Perhaps he could just stop doing those things? Thinking out loud here,
Apparently Elon Musk pressured them into Banning people, and they just went along with it which tells you everything you need to know
Can I get a “fuck Elon the Felon” my fellow netizen?
Yeah I made the jump a while back with the API thing, welcome
I got banned in 2022 for hate speech against Cops. Ive been lurking with libreddit.
Did you know many subs are controlled by former and current Leo. Justiceserved, legal advice, publicfreakout,etc
If you like rap, or well, even if you don’t, listen to Death of a Constable by Brian Ennals and Infinity Knives.
It’s always been ridiculous to me that what is essentially a forum has shareholders. That’s why I left Reddit during the app debacle and haven’t looked back.
Corporate social media was a mistake. Genuinely, I lay a lot of why the state of the western world is the way it is at the feet of Zuckerberg and his peers.
Same. I’m not sure Lemmy is any better tho. I know, I’m a hypocrite.
It’s not owned by a corporation and doesn’t sell your data or use it to feed an algorithm. So yeah I’d say it’s a lot better.
What exactly is your critique? Do you think news aggregator style social media is an issue in general or is there something that lemmy just doesn’t do good enough?
Right now it is ok. But I worry that AI will enshittify even the Feddiverse.
It’s better in many ways, but one that I feel is quite important is that there’s no profit motive to keep users on the platform and engaging with advertisers for as long as possible, and therefore no need to develop the kind of exploitative algorithms that drive screen addiction and engagement through rage.
Reddit had shareholders before their IPO, they just went public shareholders.
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Removing the messages option and instead replacing it with their stupid DM chat system, even for modmail
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Stating that later this year they’re going to introduce walled off paid sub-reddit
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That live stream nonsense they had a couple of years back
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Their A.I. answers integration
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Censoring users who mention ‘eat the rich’ and the name Luigi
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No longer allowing moderators of their own sub-reddit to change a sub’s status to NSFW (after the protests, obv), now requires admin to do this for them if the deem it appropriate
…who’d have guessed that these decisions were shit. Not the community who told them each time, again and again, right?
Fuck you, Reddit
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Hey fam, I’m another Reddit refugee. I heard Lemmy is what Reddit was back in the day. Sad to see Reddit go to hell.
The Voyager iOS App makes it feel like I never left.
Reddit refuge here.
I do miss all the niche subreddits. As the saying goes, “there’s a subreddit for everything.”
But I think with time, Lemmy can grow to fill that gap.
You gotta Field of Dreams it. I’m doing it for LV426/the Aliens universe. Just treat it like you’re starting a forum or a newsletter and, hopefully in time, others will contribute and it’ll grow organically.
You’re right
it’s time for me to post the weird porn
Thank you for your service.
I’m unzipped and waiting, bud
Username checks out?
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Where is the LV426 community?
I mostly contribute here, mostly.
(edit: changed it to a relative link instead of a permalink so you can subscribe from other instances)
Thanks. I’m in!
I’m trying to figure that out but I I have to make my own server? Or is it a sub on lemmy.world? There definitely a learning curve
You don’t have to make your own server (unless you really want to!). Just start a community on a server you like.
The one catch is that others can start a community of the same name and/or interest on another server and that gets a little confusing because then there are two, of course.
I wish that communities could “federate” with each other from different instances but then that raises a bunch of logistics issues about how this is moderated, how is this presented to the users, etc.
In my case I’m just posting a lot to already-created communities found in the Lemmy directory that’ve got a chunk of subscribers.
If you’re going to start your own community for your own interest, I’d advise at least setting up on an already-populated Lemmy server (which you would have to be registered on) so it gets listed in the local directory.
If you’re going to host the Lemmy server and your community, I have no experience on that front/I would imagine there’s a lot of SEO and self-promotion you’d have to do to get it off the ground.
Yeah I’ve been on Lemmy maybe 2 years or so now? I find myself going back for the subreddits of my interest. But I will try to start posting here more.
Ultimately I believe in the fediverse despite all of its growing pains.
It’ll take awhile to grow those niche communities.
I have no doubt we will!
While we still doesn’t have all kinds of active niche communities over here, it is incredible how much the community has grown since I first came here. And that’s not really all that long ago.
Thanks for joining us! :)
These days I go 50/50 on Reddit and Lemmy. I know it’s a chicken and egg problem for content, but hopefully 50% usage is enough to change things over time.
Same. Is your name related to the youtube channel?
Nope
I mod lemmy.ml/c/antitrust and we need more people contributing!
I ported !engineeringmemes@lemmy.world. Because of its limited volume, it’s barely an effort to moderate.
Just start the communities you want to see :)
Be the change you want to see! Start up your own niche community!
There is also a PWA version for those looking to try it out, and I believe it’s on F-Droid as well.
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There are a few minor cultural differences to be aware of. But as long as you avoid saying anything negative about Star Trek or Linux, you should be just fine.
Yea, and can’t be criticizing Nutrek
Shame, I have strong opinions around Discovery. Mostly because every episode is “fate of the universe” and character development arcs usually fizzle our with little actual change in the characters
Same for me using Boost on Android. It looks like Reddit only without the bots and AI slop.
Same! I’m still a little confused about the way the federation works but I love the decentralization and democratization of the platform. And Boost makes it feel very familiar.
I just got Boost the other day! I’m still getting used and tinkering with the layouts to make it like Relay still, but this community is very welcoming.
More or less. There aren’t as many bots, and everyone is generally aware of traditional Internet etiquette (i.e. don’t be an asshole). Lemmy also feels as homogenous as early Reddit: college-educated white people in western countries.
I started joining forums back in the late nineties and I’ve learned every place on the Internet is in flux. Things always change. Back in the day, stuff would happen like we would lose hosting because someone got sick of running a niche phpBB forum or the moderation team would change. When social media kicked off, changes were driven by money. Facebook was a big gaming platform in my college years (Farmville), which feels completely foreign to today’s Facebook.
The smaller the community, the more stable it is. Some of those 20-year forums still exist, albeit in a much more diminished state. If a site/platform gets popular, that’s when things can change quickly.
Lemmy has already changed since I joined and I’m sure it will become something different in the future.
Welcome! I came in with the blackout a year or so ago, it’s been fun to see more people show up over the months!
Sync for Lemmy feels just like Reddit is Fun (RiF). So good
I used to use RiF and loved Sync for Lemmy too. I just wish the developer would fix the bug for posts showing unread! It’s completely stopped me from using the app for something like 6 months now.
What do you mean my that? Like, your own posts or those of others?
Not sure I’m seeing that on my side. Could be wrong tho
It depends on the version of Lemmy that your instance is running. My account is on sh.itjust.works which upgraded Lemmy versions a few months ago. Apparently it changed a parameter name that keeps track if a post has been read or not.
So on Sync, you can click on posts, but they never show as read. It’s super annoying, so I went back to Voyager.
Feels that way to me. I wasn’t there like at the very beginning, but was able to be in a few small subreddits turn big. Some turned to shit, some turned okay. Lemmy/mbin a.k.a. threadiverse seems like it was before my time I started with reddit
Lemmy, Mbin, and now PieFed!
I didn’t want to put piefed yet since it’s still developing, but pretty fast and hard to give them credit. Is one I most looking forward to because of their topics and feeds. I thought I’d appreciate mbin having built in sorry for microblogs, but I didn’t even explore much of it
Piefed sucks bigtime.
It’s better than Reddit, badumtis!
(Yeah, a very low bar indeed) When was the last time you tried it? It gets better literally weekly.
Genuinely there are elements that I prefer using in Lemmy, and other elements I prefer PieFed, with the balance overall being 90:10 PieFed to Lemmy. And PieFed is growing by leaps and bounds. Lemmy is growing too but more slowly (it also might end up being more stable at larger scales - I dunno, though PieFed also sends like 25x less data per post iirc so the reverse could rather be true).
Still, use whichever you prefer - the Fediverse is fantastic in offering us so many choices, all for free! Much respect to the dev teams of both, and Mbin too, as well as instance admins and most mods who donate their time to keep it all going!
If it makes you feel any better, Reddit is and always has been shit. From their “fake it till you make it” days to the “narwhals and bacon” and then the RealFeelz™ community make-believe. It’s the people that made it what it was, the platform has always been a steaming loaf of shit.
edit: Oh wait, how could I forget the ViolentAcrez days. The LARPing mental case that had 300 accounts and VPNs before most knew what that was, and spent his entire LIFE trolling until he got found out by his employer who very publicly humiliated and fired his ass. The same fuckwit that Spez partnered with to run all kinds of scum subs like JailBait, etc. Reddit is shit, made by shit people. Good people accidentally found it now they’re leaving.
Edit… Oh what else? I was literally there before commenting so let me just see if I can pull from the steaming shit pile of reddit experiences I’ve had over the decades…
Does anybody remember her name? I want to say … S… Sahaya? Sahasha? I could be way off the beam so don’t let those guesses mislead you. There was a female who represented herself as a massive pillar of the community and posted almost 50% of the content. I and a few other people meticulously tracked down the fact that she in fact was an online marketer acting in a stealth capacity. The more savvy and experienced users at that time, remember this was like 2002-4(?), we could see through the ruse based on the pattern of her posting. Literally within 10 minutes of revealing the truth about her, she vanished, never to be seen again. So yeah literally the entirety of Reddit was a giant advertisement at first.
What else now? Let me have a few more bowls and I’ll see what else I can recall.
Politics are hotter than old Reddit, but I guess that goes with the times.
The “federation” aspect is pretty different in a good way. You see a lot of integration with Mastadon, for instance, as the Fediverse is trying to integrate with itself, and each Lemmy instance is like a little fiefdom with its own flavor and subs, whereas Reddit was always more of a monoculture.
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Reddit was killed by spez. RIP. Long live Lemmy! Hopefully it’s insulated from meddling by venture capital.
Who told you these lies? Lemmy took the bad parts and called them features.
I feel like I have simpler reasons for leaving Reddit.
The third party apps quit working and the site and app run like shit and take forever to load.
Simple problems, simple solutions.
I left because once you see that most posts are just commercials and advertising and then you realize how they sell our attention span instead of paying us for it then I left. I don’t work all day just to come home and make someone else money. Cut me in or eat shit.
Not to mention how many posts are made to get you to react viscerally, instead of engage with the community - things like AITA seem especially prone to this.
Politics is the most obvious, most of its run by AI
That’s actually the main reason most left, Lemmy has never seen a bigger increase in MAU before or after the death of 3rd party apps.
Not to say the other stuff isn’t important, but for me Reddit WAS Apollo. Without it, it didn’t even feel like the same service. Enough people felt the same about their preferred apps that they left en masse in 2023.
yep, reddit was RIF as far as i’m concerned. if RIF is dead then so is reddit
Sync for me, but same. Plus I didn’t like their attitude.
Complete with intermittent abandonment, just like the old days.
Yep, same here.
I was just opening the browser in safari when I still used Reddit after they got rid of 3rd party. Fuck em both ways but fuck em extra for wanting mic and camera access permissions
I was one of those. Happily discovered Voyager. I go back, usually when a search link takes me there.
The mobile app is designed by people who I only imagine get paid by the bulk number of raw clicks/taps on UI elements.
Yup, for me it’s Sync. And Sync is doing a decent enough job of bringing me Lemmy content.
i still use sync for reddit as well, you can patch it with revanced
Meh, fuck Reddit.
For me Reddit was Alien Blue. It all went downhill after Reddit bought it and then stopped updating it.
There was never an app that had such a great UI for iPad. Apollo never introduced a two column Split View like it.
Narwhal had one, but was a bit meh otherwise.
Yeah, I came here when they did the API thing. I was spending too much time on reddit anyway, now I’m reading and gaming more in my free time.
The Reddit app and site are bloated bullshit. It’s an insult that they want you to use that. Lemmy with Voyager is the experience I like.
That was indeed awful, but I put up with it (and the app even improved a bit over the last year or whatever). The thing that made me finally leave was posts being shadow deleted for simply saying a man’s name and then being threatened with bans for upvoting the “wrong” content. Absolutely not.
Once a company becomes publicly traded it always gets worse. Once the shareholders are closer to the executive compensation packages than the customers/users it is all downhill. It is like clockwork.
Might take a year, might take 10, but the result is inevitable.
Pump and dump
Yeah this is one of the obvious faults in capitalism.
The same thing will happen to Apple and Costco eventually.
Seems like putting your efforts behind censoring and banning your user base while simultaneously trying to give a pass to a facist oligarchy is a bad idea. That’s the thing about oligarchy, it’s a small club and if you weren’t already in it, you’re not going to be any time soon. Facebook and Xitter don’t want to share the money from ads and adversarial state\private actors
I’m not sure why anyone would ever buy Reddit stock. There is no money to be made in Reddit. They failed to make any money before they went public, and they’re failing to make any money now.
They tried the whole NFT thing, failed. They’re trying to sell the data to AI companies but once that’s sold they can’t sell any more of it because the benefit of Reddit data was historical data unpolluted by AI, but new Reddit data is polluted by ChatGPT posts and is therefore worth less.
It’s not even about banning people, it’s about the fact that Reddit was never a sustainable business model from the start, at least not in the traditional capitalist sense where you’re actively trying to make a profit to please shareholders.
The only benefit to owning Reddit stock is if you have voting shares and can manipulate the algorithm to benefit you in some way. Suppress some voices, amplify others to back what you want to do etc. but you need money to burn in order to achieve that because you aren’t going to be making money directly by owning Reddit stock and manipulating public opinion takes time.
at this point Elon should buy it too, drive it to ground like Twitter.
Huffman needs exactly 0 help to run reddit into the ground. He’s been doin’ it for years.
It’s actually kinda nice that he’s not going full nose-dive straight into the ground. Getting a steady stream of users is better for Lemmy’s culture, than a full exodus event, imo. It gives us a chance to not be reddit, but something better.
This would actually be a great outcome.
While most people would likely move to Digg v2.0 (I am just being realistic), this will help fuel growth in the threadiverse. And at any rate, the major instances would simply not be able to handle 1 million MAUs immediately moving to Lemmy.
Digg is excited about “AI” moderation. So, they’re gonna be going the route of banning users for wrongthink just as Reddit did. I don’t think it’s going to be that popular.
I watched the video on the Digg.com front page and it was a bunch of very rich dudes sitting on a couch, with the same energy and words of other very rich dudes. I don’t think it will be better. They just don’t live in the same world.
Normally platforms are around for a while before enshittification kicks in, I see that Digg are cutting straight to the chase before the site even launches.
I probably will check the new Digg out, but I’ve come to the conclusion that all corporate-run social media platforms will go down the road of fucking over their users in the name of profit eventually. I’m not willing to move to another one and build up connections and communities just for some rich fuck to destroy it on a whim. I’m far more interested in helping to build and grow federated platforms like Lemmy so that there is a true alternative outside of their sphere of influence entirely.
It could also just turn it into another nazi mouthpiece, and make getting information out to people even worse than it is now.
I will speculate this is going to happen anyway, sooner or later.
While I am not American, I have lived in the the US and have many close friends there. From my understanding, American oligarchs have gone full in on a proto-fascist state (US is not yet fascist in the formal definition of the term, things can and likely will get worse). This includes Hoffman and not only.
US is not yet fascist in the formal definition of the term, thing can and likely will get worse.
Yes it is. We are already at the dictatorial stage in practice with the legislature and SCOTUS complying voluntarily by not enacting checks and balances. Everything else, like the nationalism, demonizing groups, and the rest are in full swing. Don’t need death camps to be fascist, although we are well on our way down that road.
What criteria isn’t being met yet in your opinion?
It pains me to see the US go down this path. I am well aware of how bad things are going in the US (I have close friends who live there). I agree with you regarding nationalism, street arrests by security, demonization of minorities and so on.
However, I am comparing my experience living in russia (as an expat who happens to speak russian fluently), my experience living in the US under Obama and US as it is today.
US still has competitive elections. The US centre right opposition is not a formal front for the regime. Compare that to russia were elections are a formality and the so called “opposition parties” get direct orders from the regime and exist as circus performers. US isn’t at that stage yet.
Same with the US judicial system. It is definitely corrupt (and this was true even before Trump) and it is getting even more corrupt. However, the US judicial system has some level of independence and at least on some level you can have your rights be respected. Again, compare that to russia were the judicial system as such does not exist and has no authority whatsoever.
Security services in the US are increasingly becoming unhinged and acting more like crooks, but it’s no where close to russia where they have zero liability beyond not respecting key regime interests.
US still has a measure of political de-centralization. You can elect mayors and governors and they have a measure of independence. While russian does have some regional independent power centres, they are still all aligned with the regime and its ideology.
I know, comparing your local political system to russia isn’t really a sane approach. But I do think it is important to note that the differences do exist.
Fascism and other authoritarian systems aren’t a measuring contest though. Just because somewhere else has been doing it longer or is more effectively doesn’t mean somewhere else isn’t doing or trying to do the same thing.
A benevolent dictatorship is still a dictatorship for example. While the Republicans have enacted widespread voter suppression that didn’t guarantee winning an election, that doesn’t mean they aren’t working on the steps to guarantee it in the next election. Fascism doesn’t require complete and total success to be fascism.
I completely agree. I don’t mean to imply it is a competition. As I said, being better than russia is not much of an achievement.
But I do think the correct term for the US as it is today is proto-fascist. It’s also important to not ignore the transition into full scale fascism.
I think the piece that has yet to be tested is elections. As of now, we still live under the pretense that we will have a fair election.
The case can be made that the voter suppression tactics from the far right are eliminating the possibility of a fair election. Or that Elon Musks involvement has led to fraud, or at least, massive corruption to our electoral system. But at the end of the day, we still have a collective idea that the fix for this is an election that will remove them from power.
When the midterms come, that will be the real test.
because they are also taking orders from russia, Europes closest to russia side is HUNGARY in the EU.
they saw trump as thier last grift, before things change. i mentioned on reddit subs, that the gops last grasp for power was trump(during his 1st term), and they will do whatever it takes to maintain it for another 5-10years, before people get sick of them. even thier voters, they can fool stupid people forever, since you would get tire of repitive messaging down the line.
Meh. I joined Reddit in the original great Digg exodus, I’m not going back.
While most people would likely move to Digg v2.0 (I am just being realistic)
Are people actually going? The only thing I’ve heard about it (the AI-fueled reboot) is that it was planned.
It’ll be corporate owned and centralized, so I don’t care at all.
digg isn’t alive again yet afaik.
Personally I am done with corporate controlled social media sites. Just need a replacement for Youtube now.
Anyone on reddit still saying they’re waiting for digg 2.0 is not serious about leaving.
and it will invite all the trolls, racists and right wingers with it.
I don"'t like that solution because that means Huffman walks away with a golden payday instead of losing it all.
Maybe he’ll get bored with retirement, have a mid-no-life crisis and the resulting breakdown will generate some interesting news stories.
Maybe it’s because they banned all of their users
Soon it’ll just be bots banning bots.
Good ol’ bot-on-bot action.
Sounds like fun on the bun!
They’re permabanning everyomangionene who says anything good about Luigi Mangione, who is literally the greatest hero of the year in America, if not the decade. What did they think was going to happen?
Reddit has very weak leadership in my opinion.
I wouldn’t be betting on them, especially when their user base is going to want them to stand up for them and the Elon fiasco shows Spez won’t.
It’s a tinderbox before the next large Reddit protest happens again and more niche communities splinter off to the fediverse.
Reddit is the Titanic, leadership is the iceberg, and the fediverse is the welcoming ocean.
I think fediverse being the ocean is apt.
We’re just here, with wave after wave eroding the shore of the island that is Reddit.
Would lemmyy be brittania,
I think I linked to it before here months ago but Reddit won’t let mods go dark without prior authorization. The mods basically gave up any means of meaningful protest outside of leaving by capitulating during the API revolt.
The mods that didn’t capitulate were forcibly removed
Powermods also control dozens of subs each.
So I work in advertising for a company that is top 20 on the Fortune 500. We advertise everywhere including Reddit.
The returns on Reddit isn’t even very good. We still spend money there as a pure name recognition play.
As of now, for the company I work for, it’s not working.
