Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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      I see RicksCEO.eth has since quietly removed the ā€œ.ethā€ part of his name. Presumably it was way more embarrassing than being a strip club tycoon.

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        some years ago I wanted to build a bot that tracks all these loons, but the twitter API reqs are onerous as fuck so I never bothered

        feel like thereā€™s probably still a need for something like that. perhaps even more so than before, given how mask-off the snakepit is getting

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          Considering API access is now I think 40k a month + you pay for usage, prob good you never got into that. So the time doesnā€™t feel wasted.

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    eigenrobot:

    almost every smart person I talk to in tech is in favor of mandatory eugenic polygynous marriages in order to deal with the fertility crisis. people are absolutely fed up with the lefty approach of using generational insolvency as a pretextual cudgel to install socialism.

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      Every person I talk to ā€” well, every smart person I talk to ā€” no, wait, every smart person in tech ā€” okay, almost every smart person I talk to in tech is a eugenicist. Ha, see, everybody agrees with me! Well, almost everybodyā€¦

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      Man, I didnā€™t even know how to react to this nonsense. The obvious sneer is to point out that if the alternative is to interact with people like ER here we really shouldnā€™t be surprised to see a declining birth rate. But I think the more important takeaway that this hints at is that these people are dumb and fundamentally incurious.

      Like, thereā€™s plenty of surveys and research into why people are having fewer kids than they used to, and itā€™s not because toddlers are little hellions more so than in the past. And ā€œgenerational insolvencyā€ is a pretty big fucking part of the explanation actually, as is empowering families to choose whether or not to have children rather than leaving it entirely up to the vicissitudes of biological processes and horniness. The latter part cuts both ways, in that people who want families are (theoretically; see above re: financial factors) able to take advantage of fertility treatments or IVF or whatever and have kids where they historically would have been unable to do so.

      But no, rather than actually engage with any of that or otherwise treat the world like other people have agency they have identified what they believe to be the problem and have decided that the brute application of state power is the solution, so long as that power is being applied to other people. For all that we acknowledge the horrors of fascism, I think the stupidity of these people is also worth acknowledging, if for no other reason than to reinforce why this shit shouldnā€™t be taken seriously.

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        Man, I didnā€™t even know how to react to this nonsense

        same way as other nazis - boop 'em on the nose

        Iā€™d be willing to wager a guess that this fragile little flower has never had a ā€œphysical altercationā€ in their life and would walk away with fucking ~ptsd from a single ā€œhey that shit is not okayā€ boop

        this hints at is that these people are dumb and fundamentally incurious

        if youā€™re talking about eigenrowboat, I donā€™t think I agree. theyā€™re quite curious, but they ā€œjustā€ go in with a particular viewpoint and a desire to ā€œprove their pointā€ in the most prevaricating way possible. itā€™s no accident that the entire sphere of ā€œhow do we make scientific racism and nazism more socially palatableā€ gravitates around these fuckers. if youā€™re instead talking about them making these comments in a ā€œsee the poor are dumb and useless and thus deserve what they getā€, well, see aforementioned shitty opinions

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          Nah, itā€™s the Nazis who are dumbasses, not that that makes them less dangerous. They certainly think theyā€™re smart and the want to present themselves as curious, but in reality they reduce knowledge to another political tool. There is no true spirit of inquiry or asking questions, only trying to marshal arguments in favor of their pre-established answer. Intellectual discourse becomes both a source of power to give their preexisting ideology a veneer of legitimacy and also an arena of conflict where they can prove that theyā€™re the biggest bestest boys.

          These people possess neither a desire nor a willingness to engage with the world as it actually is. Instead they want the power to impose their vision of what the world should look like (a strict hierarchy with them at the ostensible top) onto reality, and when it inevitably fails because thatā€™s not how any of this works they end up uselessly doubling down and retreating into conspiracies. Next time theyā€™ll have more power and itā€™ll work, even though itā€™s the basic underlying shape of Creation that theyā€™re ultimately at war with.

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        Saying theyā€™re dumb and incurious offers almost too much respect. They believe in racial eugenics based on IQ - look at the kind of shit Elon Musk retweets. Scaremongering about fertility is just the way they get to the racial eugenics, while pretending itā€™s a necessity not a choice.

        Edit: and now I see froztbyte said almost the same thing first. Oops

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      Cue the scene where Buck Turgidson finds out that Dr. Strangelove proposes humanity survive deep inside mineshafts, with multiple women for every man.

      Anyway I like how the options presented are ā€œsocialismā€ - vaguely defined so as to be something anyone can project their fears on - on the one hand, and state-ordered sexual slavery on the other. True freedom, amirite?

      I had to doublecheck what ā€œpolygynousā€ means, and I ā€œloveā€ this Google-generated Wiki excerpt. Itā€™s technichally correct in some parts of the world.

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        ā€œsocialism or barbarism you say? well maybe barbarism has its upsidesā€

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      aww, is the poor baby missing that maybe thereā€™s people who donā€™t want to talk to them because of how much of a piece of shit they are? how sad

      lefty approach of using generational insolvency as a pretextual cudgel to install socialism

      this dipshit continues to make the most astounding not-even-wrong posts. guess theyā€™re angling for a job as the next Noahpinion or Yglesias

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      Oh but you see itā€™s not regressive because itā€™s polygynous not polygamous. Those women totally want to be forced to have the ubermenschā€™s children

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      almost every person in tech (ā€¦) to deal with the fertility crisis

      Why would we be listening to ā€œtechā€ to deal with ā€œthe fertility crisisā€? Why is ā€œtechā€ concerned with ā€œfertilityā€?

      Stay in your fucking lane, will ya. How about mandatory eugenic polygynous marriages to address the growing crisis of open-source development? The crisis of newest C++ standards not being implemented in the popular compilers quickly enough? The crisis of Node.JS existing?

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      why do we want people who canā€™t deliver viable technology raising more kids?

      why should we assume that they would be any better at the kid-raising than the technology?

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    I wonder if the OpenAI habit of naming their models after the previous onesā€™ embarrassing failures is meant as an SEO trick. Google ā€œchatgpt strawberryā€ and the top result is about o1. It may mention the origin of the codename, but ultimately youā€™re still streered to marketing material.

    Either way, Iā€™m looking forward to their upcoming AI models Malpractice, Forgery, KiddieSmut, ClassAction, SecuritiesFraud and Lemonparty.

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          camping out on a friendā€™s box, two others had root, but they effectively never bothered. the disk filled one day and i went looking for stuff that wasnā€™t useful. found that site, found it really was where DNS pointed.

          my current box is the descendant of that one

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            this is what the cloud and its enshittification has taken from us

            shared root on ad-hoc hardware doing fuck knows what (but itā€™s probably lemonparty)

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                did yā€™all see bash.org looks to maybe finally have died died? thereā€™s an archive up somewhere at least but rip to a bastion

                (this thought comes to mind because I instantly wanted to link ā€œour thoughts go out to the recent victims of internet fraudā€ā€¦)

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        A couple months ago I lobbied for (and won) my weekly trivia team to use the name ā€œmikeā€™s hard lemonpartyā€

        Then I learned exactly how old I was

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    Sundar Pichal, Google Q3 2024 earnings call:

    Weā€™re also using AI internally to improve our coding processes, which is boosting productivity and efficiency. Today, more than a quarter of all new code at Google is generated by AI, then reviewed and accepted by engineers. This helps our engineers do more and move faster.

    Firstly, if this is literally true theyā€™re completely fucking cooked.

    Secondly, if it isnā€™t, what version of it is?

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      from someone on Mastodon:

      Google has a gigantic code generation culture, because the engineers there strongly prefer complexity to drudgery.

      If you asked them to write fizzbuzz and left them in a room for twelve hours they would deliver a new programming language that generalized repetitive string printing, with an extension language for potential non-string-printing actions.

      I left in ā€˜22 but feel fairly confident that ā€œ25% of code generated by AIā€ is going to be more of the same.

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        I half want to jest ā€œPDD strikes againā€ but honestly it feels like only half the explanation

        (promotion driven dev)

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          Man now Iā€™m thinking about AI written PIPs. God if I got an AI PIP Iā€™d self immolate on company grounds.

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            oh this is almost definitely real, given that the regular PIP process was already designed to get you to quit

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          God knows I like a good DSL, but ā€œcomplexity over drudgeryā€ just sounds miserable. I also wonder what kind of stuff theyā€™re coding thatā€™s supposedly trivial enough to be generated by AI.

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              Here ya go boss, a 80% prototype solution.

              /* TODO: support other element types */
              unsigned int * maxsumsubarr(unsigned int arr[], size_t len, size_t * sublen) {
                      *sublen = len;
                      return arr;
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      Best case scenario they are using a loose definition of AI to mean any code generated by other code in order to signal to investors that google isnā€™t the hulking, sluggish monolith that it is and is agile enough to use AI.

      Worst case scenario: ā€œhey chatgpt pls write me new search algorithm to print money, thanks, sundarā€

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      Firstly, if this is literally true theyā€™re completely fucking cooked.

      I totally believe it. Yā€™all remember Stadia? That was a cosmic freebie and Google absolutely dropped the ball on it so laughably hard.

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        which part of it was the freebie? whole service looked dead on arrival to me (for the simple reason of physics)

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          At least for me in the US, performance was very good. I was able to 100% Sekiro, for example.

          The reason I think it was a freebie is:

          1. Everyone was stuck in-doors about six months after launch
          2. Everybody wanted to play videogames, but no one could get GPUs and the console situation was not great
          3. Cyberpunk 2022 2077 came out and tons of people wanted to play it. It ran terribly on consoles and on PCs, but surprisingly well on Stadia at launch

          It may have still failed altogether anyway, but the fact that they didnā€™t seize this opportunity, and instead stuck by their absolutely confusing-as-fuck ā€œlike Netflix but not really; first let me explain how this worksā€ subscription model, always gets me.

          Edit: Cyberpunk 2077 šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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            but the fact that they didnā€™t seize this opportunity

            honestly, I think they did try, and ran into the unfortunate reality of physics

            to make that product work, you need reliable high throughput (this is helped by codecs), sufficient juggle-able GPU space (this is helped by being a gear-hogging first-in-line monopolist), and lastly the casual little requirement of actually being close enough to your customer base

            iirc US cost to coast latency is around 65~70ms (so 2x that is the upper timebound for player interactivity, obvs there itā€™d be less because more local DCs though). just from me to europe is 165msec+, with a far less predictable path throughput. the scale economics to launch a DC for this in ZA (even to serve subsaharan africa all the way up to kenya) just plain doesnā€™t work, and there are many more places in the world where it doesnā€™t

            itā€™ll be interesting to see if a retrospective as to why it failed leaks out of that biz someday

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      If the purpose of a metric is to show adoption, the metric can be defined in a way to show adoption. Could be just an effect of promo driven culture, AI push and goodā€™ol Goodhartā€™s law.

      Like, how do you even measure when code is ai authored and when not. If you insert 25% of a variable name and the autocompleter guesses the rest of the name correctly, are the remaining 75% AI generated?

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    Was browsing ebay, looking for some piece of older used consumer electronics. Found a listing where the description text was written like crappy ad copy. Cheap over-the-top praising the thing. But zero words about the condition of the used item, i.e. the actually important part was completely missing. And then at the end of the description it saidā€¦ this description text was generated by AI.

    AI slop is like mold, it really gets everywhere and ruins everything.

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    NASB, I had a jarring experience this morning watching Patrick Boyleā€™s latest video ā€œBig Tech is Going Nuclear!ā€ (not gonna link it) where 5 mins in he introduces the sponsor and itā€™s an AI presentation slide generator, which he said he used for the images in his video. This after he mentioned the data on generating one image using the same amount of energy as charging a smartphone. The thing is he seems careful to not mention that it is a gen ai productā€“he never says AIā€“rather a piece of software that helps making presentations.

    It kinda made me panic stop the video, like an instant ā€œwell, done with youā€ - not sure if he continued to make a joke of it or anything. I mean, Iā€™m sure (I hope) he was given a lot of money for the spot, but damn! Just when I thought I had a foundational understanding of people

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      The thing is he seems careful to not mention that it is a gen ai productā€“he never says AIā€“rather a piece of software that helps making presentations.

      The term ā€œAIā€ damages sales when used in advertising - whatever script Boyle got was definitely written by people who knew that fact.

      I also predicted something like this would happen (though within a very specific context) a while ago - seems my predictionā€™s coming true.

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          The guy seems shrewd enough to know publicly supporting anything AI will shred his reputation - I suspect he might have been duped.

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            Yeah, I get what youā€™re saying but Iā€™d really have to stretch my benefit-of-the-doubt muscles to consider someone who makes such well-researched videos wouldnā€™t go to the website before he reads the url out on his video and see that on the homepage, above the fold, in big letters, it says ā€œPowered by AIā€

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                Itā€™s definitely the prudent option but Iā€™m over mental capacity and Iā€™d be lying if I said I wasnā€™t sharing this just for the upvotes. I couldnā€™t see any mentions of the sponsor in the comments, so I guess the audience, at least, were duped. I already have a string of unanswered questions on ecosiaā€™s greenwashing social posts, though

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            sorry if my reply sounded rude. I didnā€™t mean it to be. I just saw it again and it sounds dismissive.

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      And this puts the bit from the other video with the referral links into context. Itā€™s not a joke, he actually expects to be making money off of people :(. I found the vagueness in the ad jarring too. Thereā€™s this thing called sponsorblock, a database of timestamps for videos that skips useless stuff. The downside is you donā€™t find out if the guy that youā€™re watching is a shill.

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      This made the rounds last week IIRC. Though, looking at it again I realize I didnā€™t notice how over-stressed the hallucinated button is. Itā€™s funny in a disgusting way.

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      Iā€™d like to imagine that Adobe/other AI photo editing people are frantically scrambling to fondle their prompts a little harder to avoid things like this. Infinite whack-a-mole.

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        I wonder if Adobe has considered cooling their new data centers with liquid nitrogen?

        Cold is key to successful turd polishing.

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    Had a first-hand AI encounter today at the grocery store. The self-checkout now has a script that monitors an overhead video feed to make sure youā€™re not getting tricky about what scanned and what got put into the bagging area, and if it thinks youā€™re shady it will stop you from proceeding and summon an employee with no notification that something is wrong.

    The new self-checkout process is as follows:

    1. Scan your item
    2. Hold the item plainly before you so the overhead camera doesnā€™t get confused, looking like a Catholic priest about to deliver communion.
    3. Place item in bagging area. Try not to have to shift things around to find a place.
    4. Swear as the nom-mutable voice instructions tell you to bag ā€œyourā€¦ Item.ā€ Legitimately feels like they got as far as assembling the voice lines before anyone realised that having the compu-checker read every purchase out loud would lead to at best an unworkable cacophony if not several immediate lawsuits.
    5. GOTO 1

    Even as antisocial and impatient as I am Iā€™ve found self-checkout to be a UX disaster, but somehow it keeps getting worse.

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      sometimes i manage to confuse self-checkout overhead camera by having a bike helmet on, when that happens i have to hold it up over bagging area (but not put inside because weight wonā€™t match)

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        I wonder when the management will figure out these rigid anti theft systems cost a lot more than they save.

        On that note, think i figured out a way to get free products on the lidl checkout. There was a large amount of errors (some of which caused by me by accident). And required help a couple of times and later i realized that i had paid less than expected. Not sure if it is reproducable, as that would be stealing, or trying to get hired as a red teamer.

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    Talk with PM went nowhere. Very nice guy, but was insistent on giving the reviewer the benefit of the doubt. I just wanna die.

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      oof, Iā€™m sorry. itā€™s so hard to get capitalists to understand the nature of what theyā€™re enabling, especially if it seems to be working in the short term. itā€™s the most frustrating thing during a bubble ā€” it taints every decision the executive class makes, and enables grifters to get away with obvious shit even over objections from people who know better.

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      Ugh, from me as well: sorry to hear that.

      I can relate to how you feel about the AI stuff. I also work for GenAI-pilled upper management, and the forced introduction of github copilot is coming soon. It will make us all super extra productive! ā€¦they say. Dreading it already. I wonā€™t use it at all, Iā€™ve already made that clear to my superior. But my colleagues might use it, and then I will have to review the AI slopā€¦ uggghhā€¦

      Maybe a small silver lining to raise the mood here, recent article from Monday: Gartner sounds alarm on AI cost, data challenges

      If even freaking Gartner is now saying ā€œwell, maybe AI is too expensive and not actually so usefulā€ā€¦ then maybe the world of management will wisen up as well, soon, hopefully, maybe?

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        an idea I just had (which would need some work but talking hypothetical): wouldnā€™t it be lovely if IDEs VS Code[0] automatically inserted ā€œCopilot Used Hereā€ start/end markers around all generated shit. could even make it a styleguide/editorconfig so itā€™s universally set across projects[1]

        [0] - because lol ofc itā€™s mainly vscode rn

        [1] - and then when you find colleagues who lie about whether theyā€™re using it you wrap all their desk shit in foil

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          I like the idea. Or maybe marking such changes in the commit messageā€¦ I might try to bring that up when the time comes.

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            in the current most-typical mode of engagement, commit messages are too disconnected from the actual contents. it requires someone who gives a shit to go looking

            conversely, what I mean is something like ā€œa hook that guarantees that the moment the plugin is engaged and output from it is scribed in source, metadata about that event is simultaneously co-writtenā€

            itā€™s already generating a pile of other things, it may as well generate timestamps and callsig and callhash and shit tooā€¦

            the number one problem with this, of course, is that itā€™s going to be extremely unpopular with a Vocal Set Of People who rely on this shit to make themselves look good

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      no escape

      Rest of world: is there no alternative to US hegemony?

      CIA: *raises head from pile of blow, puts gun on table* no

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      Ok actually read the screed. Ahhhh yes good olā€™ Jeff ā€œIn the years after I bought the WaPo and everyone got suspicious, me and my billions of dollars have done nothing but improve the world and my credibility and definitely didnā€™t trap anyone in warehouses to die in a tornado, so you all trust me now, right?ā€ Bezos

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      Eugene Meyer, publisher of The Washington Post from 1933 to 1946, thought the same, and he was right.

      I wonder what major world events were happening in the 1930s-1940s that would line up with thisā€¦

      As it turned out, Meyer did take the side of the Republican party on some issues. He was opposed to FDRā€™s New Deal, and this was reflected in the Postā€™s editorial stance as well as its news coverage, especially regarding the National Recovery Administration (NRA). He even wrote an editorializing ā€œnewsā€ story under a fake name

      THERE IT IS!

      But back to Jeff.

      You can see my wealth and business interests as a bulwark against intimidation, or you can see them as a web of conflicting interests.

      Yep. Weā€™re protected from intimidation and extortion so long as we pay our dues to the consiglieri when he comes around and donā€™t get too chummy with the cops.

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      more US politics I know. There is sadly no escape from the fiery vortex that is the U.S. election.

      (e: not blaming you, just posting from outside hell)

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      The entire motivation of AI dev afaict is to have a new mommy to take care of you, I guess this is one way to do it. šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„

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      Ok so I read the thread as translated by google. Some notes:

      1. System was set up to also use some image recognition so it could filter for some classic incel-type shit, like:
      • believers
      • zodiac sign written
      • doesnā€™t work
      • show breasts in photos
      • photos with flowers
      1. His entire correspondence with these women was done by chatgpt. including making dates and promising gifts for those dates. He later gives gpt calendar access to avoid a two dates to the prom situation.
      2. Did he continue using gpt to talk to his fiance? yes. Did he feign responsiveness in his texting with gpt? also yes. When she started talking about going to weddings, did it generate a marriage proposal out of the blue, and prompt him as to whether or not the message should be sent? also yes.

      justā€¦ fuck.

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    Two of the major donors pushing to recall the mayor of Oakland, CA are cryptocurrency ā€œexecutives.ā€

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/billionaires-oakland-mayor-sheng-thao-recall

    Over the summer, Jesse Pollak, a cryptocurrency investor and executive at Coinbase, launched Abundant Oakland, an advocacy organization that funds ā€œmoderateā€ candidates running in Oakland races. The organization is explicitly linked to similarly named entities in San Francisco and Santa Monica.

    Abundant Oakland has a related political action committee, Vibrant Oakland, which, campaign filings show, has received donations from Pollak ($115,000), the Oakland police officers association ($50,000), cryptocurrency executive Konstantin Richter ($60,000), the northern California carpenters regional council ($150,000) and a Pac controlled by Piedmont landlord Chris Moore ($100,000).

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      Truly, we are blessed to have a candidate willing to represent the freedom to sell anything on a darknet market and hire a hitman to take out your previous partners or detractors or whatever.

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      Quite the proof he no longer writes his own tweets. Fun fact seems like they created various freerossdayone cryptocurrency tokens, who are all doing badly (according to my quick google) he has lost the mandate of heaven.

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    My enshittification story*: Instagram has been suggesting people for me to follow. It markets them to me by saying ā€œfriend X follows this person!ā€ But friend X does not follow this person. Friend X has no tenable connection to this person. Why are you bullshitting me, Zuck? Is the autoplag outflow drain hooked up to Insta?

    *orig JP title: åƒ•ć®ć‚Øćƒ³ć‚·ćƒƒćƒˆåŒ–ć‚¹ćƒˆćƒ¼ćƒŖćƒ¼

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    Adobe execs say artists need to embrace AI or get left behind [Jess Weatherbed, The Verge]

    Adobe is going all in on generative AI models and tools, even if that means turning away creators who dislike the technology. Artists who refuse to embrace AI in their work are ā€œnot going to be successful in this new world without using it,ā€ says Alexandru Costin, vice president of generative AI at Adobe.

    Personally, I think this is gonna backfire pretty damn hard on Adobe - artistsā€™ already distrust and hate them as it is, and Procreate, their chief competition, earned a lot of artistsā€™ goodwill by publicly rejecting gen-AI some time ago. All this will likely do is push artists to jump ship, viewing Adobe as actively hostile to their continued existence.

    On a wider note, it seems pretty clear to me Alexandru Costinā€™s drank the technological determinist Kool-Aid and has come to believe autoplagā€™s dominance is inevitable. Heā€™s not the first person Iā€™ve seen drink that particular Kool-Aid, heā€™s almost certainly not the last, and I suspect that the mass-drinking of that Kool-Aidā€™s fueling the tech industryā€™s relentless doubling-down on gen-AI. A doubling-down I expect will bite them in the ass quite spectacularly.

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      not going to be successful in this new world without using it

      The hubris is almost impressive in itself. Thereā€™s not a single technology in human history that has managed to kill every art form not using it. Digital art didnā€™t do it, photography, pencil, movable type printing, nib pens, oil paints, scraffito, probably not even the invention of currency did it. He thinks autoplag of all things will?

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        i suppose when this guy speaks of artists, he means people making art as their primary source of income. not to say that those people arenā€™t artists as valid as any others. but heā€™s saying if you donā€™t use ai to push out stuff ever faster, you wonā€™t make it. fuck taking your time to get inspired and have it mean something, just give us the soulless garbage to sell our products already.

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          I somewhat assumed so based on the usual corporate ghoul definition of ā€œsuccessfulā€. Thatā€™s why I included currency as something without which artists have managed to make a living since its invention. That particular example may be arguable, but being a successful artist is not and will not be predicated entirely on how fast one can crank out ā€œcontentā€. How many movies do the wealthiest directors put out per year?

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      I mean, he is their VP of Autoplag, so I imagine heā€™s got even more reason to believe than the average MBA. That doesnā€™t undermine your point, but I think the fact that adobe has appointed a VP of Autoplag should be part of the story to begin with, rather than being assumed. Did they ever have a VP of blockchain? Or a VP of copyright fraud?