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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
eigenrobot:
Every person I talk to ā well, every smart person I talk to ā no, wait, every smart person in tech ā okay, almost every smart person I talk to in tech is a eugenicist. Ha, see, everybody agrees with me! Well, almost everybodyā¦
Man, I didnāt even know how to react to this nonsense. The obvious sneer is to point out that if the alternative is to interact with people like ER here we really shouldnāt be surprised to see a declining birth rate. But I think the more important takeaway that this hints at is that these people are dumb and fundamentally incurious.
Like, thereās plenty of surveys and research into why people are having fewer kids than they used to, and itās not because toddlers are little hellions more so than in the past. And āgenerational insolvencyā is a pretty big fucking part of the explanation actually, as is empowering families to choose whether or not to have children rather than leaving it entirely up to the vicissitudes of biological processes and horniness. The latter part cuts both ways, in that people who want families are (theoretically; see above re: financial factors) able to take advantage of fertility treatments or IVF or whatever and have kids where they historically would have been unable to do so.
But no, rather than actually engage with any of that or otherwise treat the world like other people have agency they have identified what they believe to be the problem and have decided that the brute application of state power is the solution, so long as that power is being applied to other people. For all that we acknowledge the horrors of fascism, I think the stupidity of these people is also worth acknowledging, if for no other reason than to reinforce why this shit shouldnāt be taken seriously.
same way as other nazis - boop 'em on the nose
Iād be willing to wager a guess that this fragile little flower has never had a āphysical altercationā in their life and would walk away with fucking ~ptsd from a single āhey that shit is not okayā boop
if youāre talking about eigenrowboat, I donāt think I agree. theyāre quite curious, but they ājustā go in with a particular viewpoint and a desire to āprove their pointā in the most prevaricating way possible. itās no accident that the entire sphere of āhow do we make scientific racism and nazism more socially palatableā gravitates around these fuckers. if youāre instead talking about them making these comments in a āsee the poor are dumb and useless and thus deserve what they getā, well, see aforementioned shitty opinions
Nah, itās the Nazis who are dumbasses, not that that makes them less dangerous. They certainly think theyāre smart and the want to present themselves as curious, but in reality they reduce knowledge to another political tool. There is no true spirit of inquiry or asking questions, only trying to marshal arguments in favor of their pre-established answer. Intellectual discourse becomes both a source of power to give their preexisting ideology a veneer of legitimacy and also an arena of conflict where they can prove that theyāre the biggest bestest boys.
These people possess neither a desire nor a willingness to engage with the world as it actually is. Instead they want the power to impose their vision of what the world should look like (a strict hierarchy with them at the ostensible top) onto reality, and when it inevitably fails because thatās not how any of this works they end up uselessly doubling down and retreating into conspiracies. Next time theyāll have more power and itāll work, even though itās the basic underlying shape of Creation that theyāre ultimately at war with.
Saying theyāre dumb and incurious offers almost too much respect. They believe in racial eugenics based on IQ - look at the kind of shit Elon Musk retweets. Scaremongering about fertility is just the way they get to the racial eugenics, while pretending itās a necessity not a choice.
Edit: and now I see froztbyte said almost the same thing first. Oops
Cue the scene where Buck Turgidson finds out that Dr. Strangelove proposes humanity survive deep inside mineshafts, with multiple women for every man.
Anyway I like how the options presented are āsocialismā - vaguely defined so as to be something anyone can project their fears on - on the one hand, and state-ordered sexual slavery on the other. True freedom, amirite?
I had to doublecheck what āpolygynousā means, and I āloveā this Google-generated Wiki excerpt. Itās technichally correct in some parts of the world.
āsocialism or barbarism you say? well maybe barbarism has its upsidesā
aww, is the poor baby missing that maybe thereās people who donāt want to talk to them because of how much of a piece of shit they are? how sad
this dipshit continues to make the most astounding not-even-wrong posts. guess theyāre angling for a job as the next Noahpinion or Yglesias
Weird way to say he doesnāt talk to many women
eigen āBreeding Stock for Me, Unwilling Abortions for Theeā robot
Oh but you see itās not regressive because itās polygynous not polygamous. Those women totally want to be forced to have the ubermenschās children
Why would we be listening to ātechā to deal with āthe fertility crisisā? Why is ātechā concerned with āfertilityā?
Stay in your fucking lane, will ya. How about mandatory eugenic polygynous marriages to address the growing crisis of open-source development? The crisis of newest C++ standards not being implemented in the popular compilers quickly enough? The crisis of Node.JS existing?
Oh, heās apparently riffing on this https://xcancel.com/nic__carter/status/1851719672456188197
Knowing the context doesnāt really change anything about this tweet though.
Iāve gotten too offline to sniff out ironic posts. This nearly sent me to my grave
eigen āIāll call it ironic if people call me on my shitā robot
why do we want people who canāt deliver viable technology raising more kids?
why should we assume that they would be any better at the kid-raising than the technology?
Status. Also just a bit of kink and āprovingā heterosexuality (I wish I was joking).