Need to make a primal scream without gathering footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
Oh look, Elon openly snuggling up to Nazis and ājust asking questionsā. As if I didnāt hate this clown enough.
(For anyone out of the loop: the AfD is a far-right political party in Germany and the spiritual successor to the NSDAP. Theyāre praising the SS, advocate for legalization of holocaust denial and historical revisionism, removal of hate crimes from the code of law, and more. Theyāre so openly Nazis that they got kicked out of the EU parliamentās far-right ID coalition for being too fucking Nazi. Thereās no leeway. Theyāre literal card-carrying national socialists.)
They want to ban kosher food and circumcision, but love the Israeli government and the war on Gaza, which saysā¦ so many things, about so many people.
heās been openly a nazi propagandist pretty much since he took over twitter. they are hiding black crime stats from you.png, āthis is the actual truth,ā etc. without saying āI am literally a Naziā or āwe should do holocaustā I genuinely donāt know how much more open he can be about it
The Henry Ford of our generation.
oh huh. I didnāt actually know about that bit. TIL!
christ every little bit of history I read which had some power-hungry rich fucker going āmmmm maybe we should hear them outā, and then watching whatās happening in popular media coverage and shit. le sigh.
Notice that he, of course, does not list any of those āpoliciesā that heās āreadā.
(for mastodon users who donāt get the image: itās Andrew Lawrenceās āyou know the onesā tweet)
@mii
I really didnāt think the second part of āThose who donāt learn historyā was going to be so literal.Maybe Iām missing something.
translation: thinking about this too much, or at all really, would be disastrous for my political ideology and ego, so someone else please waste their time and energy typing up a reply i wonāt read, so i can continue having the image of an intellectual engaged in vigorous debate without actually having to do anything
I suspect Elonās pretty comfortable with his political ideology and ego, tbh. But I agree with the second part.
ehh, probably
Counterpoint, his entire ātweeting through itā public show heās been putting out is emblematic of a deeply insecure person.
Imho that is just plausible deniability, just asking questions style shit. So news papers can keep writing āhis politics are so vague, we donāt knowā while he keeps unbanning fascists on twitter.
@mii @blakestacey I cannot and will not argue about your points, theyāre absolutely valid. The words youāre using however are not correct. Nazis are fascists, as are these right wing monsters. They are antisocialist, not socialists. They are against socialism and against democracy and only for their own brand of autocracy.
āNational socialismā is the term the Nazis invented to describe themselves. āNaziā is the abbreviation of the term ānational socialismā. Could be good to know.
also good to point out for someone just finding out about this:
(1) The name is a lie in the same way āthe democratic peopleās republic of north koreaā is. So Peckham is absolutely correct that the Nazis hated socialists and were not socialists, as evidenced by the fact that they tried to kill all of them.
(2) The modern version of this lie is pretending the Nazis were socialists, and itās a very common tactic in the far right. So Peckham is correct that we should not call them socialists, itās just that using the term ānational socialistā doesnāt actually imply you think they are socialists.
(3) They did spring originally from the fusing of former socialist idealogues with the far right. So as with many massively successful lies there is a distant evolutionary relationship to something true.
rare that we get to recurse the stubsack that rapidly
@mountainriver Are you really shocked that the name is a lie?
no, nobody here is particularly shocked that fascists would lie about being socialists
donāt be the annoying pedant; weāre fully capable of understanding that the ānational socialist german workersā partyā was not a socialist party (and that a ānaziā is a pejorative and was from the start), that the phrase āmarxist-leninistā is generally used to mean āleft-authoritarian but want to pretend it isnātā, that the ācommunist party of the soviet unionā was actually presiding over a project of building an authoritarian state capitalism, and that the ārepublicanā party in the united states is trying to make the united states a theocratic dictatorship.
@mawhrin Iām sorry if you were annoyed, but words matter.
Congratulations on missing the entire point of everything explained to you at considerable length and on coming back with a vintage not-pology.
The egress is that-a-way.
This fucking thread on HN right now.
OP is an enlightened freelance webdeveloper who is very scared about ghosts from their computer.
āI find myself in a unique position here, as my diverse background and experiences have given me a perspective that allows me to see the potential impact of AI more clearly than large parts of the society Iām living inā
Another poster is also very scared about ghosts from the computer and converted their entire net-worth into NVidia shares. Now that they are heavily invested in a company deeply entangled with ghosts from the computer the apocalypse basically has to happen. After all it couldnāt be that they overreacted.
Computer ghost phobia:
spooked by AI š¤ Falling for jump scare flash games
How to deal with the AI-pocalypse as a regular guy?
This is an antinomy so, problem solved I guess?
Proof that pasta doesnāt exist:
- An atom isnāt pasta.
- Adding an atom to something that isnāt pasta doesnāt make it pasta.
- Therefore nothing is pasta.
omg, Iām not real.
I wonder if we can start requiring history of science, philosophy, and literary & artistic theory classes in secondary school (or at least before giving out doctorates), just to limit incredibly annoying adults who think theyāre geniuses. I also thought I invented brain-in-a-vat thought experiments when I was ten, but I donāt opine on them reinvented from first principles.
Didnāt we discuss this fallacy the other day?
maybe youāre referring to when i brought it up in last weekās thread? and yeah, this is basically the same
canāt wait for AI bros to invent the trolley problem
twice as fast trolleys, with ChatGPT driving
new thing for the next little while: anytime a promptfondler claims a prompt has intelligence, āoh yeah so why do you have to ask it things? why isnāt it here having a beer with us?ā for the 3 minutes of entertainment it may provide
making that subscript was not intentional, but rofl. gj lemmy
This is the proof by induction method for the people who donāt know btw.
CW:
spoiler
Dongs, Blood and Thunder, Victory at Sea, Child birth, Scented Candles
So yeahā¦remember that manly Roko post from last week where he manplained how much men donāt need women? Oglaf did it first.
This is Rokoās ideal future; Rokoās Modern Life, if you like.
(NSFW)
https://www.oglaf.com/dark-miasma/ (part 1 of 24 lol)
https://www.oglaf.com/burningjewels/
But nature finds a way:
Fuck yeah Oglaf!!! I need to do my biannual catchup binge
Even Kronar dislikes Musk (nsfw obv).
Blood and Thunder, Victory at Sea, (ā¦), Scented Candles
Iām sorry what is any of this. Iām scared to click any of the things since I canāt even comprehend the content warning.
Sorry! I leaned too hard on the inside jokes. Oglaf is a pretty successful fantasy-themed web comic with adult humor. Itās nothing youād need therapy to get over, though it has more nudity than youād want your boss to notice if they walked by your desk.
āBlood and Thunderā was heavily memed around a dozen years ago.
If you donāt already know what oglaf is, it takes but a single click to find out
Iāve been around internet enough to expect āScented Candlesā to be some insanely disgusting psychosexual performance art, notā¦ literal fucking candles.
The deeply amusing thing about oglaf is how often it isnāt porn or even NSFW.
and itās remarkably wholesome, in a way. itās never particularly gross or over the line, itās always oglaf
(Well, this goes some way to explaining āAIā āartā)
This has got to be some sort of sucker filter, like itās not that he particularly means it, itās that he is after the exact type of rube who is unfazed by naked contrarianism and the categorically preposterous so long as itās said with a straight face,.
Maybe thereās something to the whole pick up artistry but for nailing VCs thing.
It really is as simple as that. The dude got a fair bit of attention from his LSTM blog post and got addicted. Turns out, you canāt churn out awesome blog posts that often so you gotta switch to the harder stuff.
according to modern film scholars, this cultural shift was brought about by the lasting audience impact of that scene in Speed (1994) where the bus fucking noclips across a gap while pretending thereās a ramp itās using to jump (or Keanu made it pop a wheelie?)
āAre you telling me I can jump a bus across a 50 foot gap at 67 miles per hour?ā
āNo Neo, Iām telling you that when youāre ready, you wonāt have to.ā
Wasnāt 1994 right about when they stopped making movies in black and white?
I also hate movies where I can see the actual action going on and it isnāt all shaky cam and cuts cuts cuts.
I bet that guy watches anime on 2x speed and skips parts without dialog to feel more āproductiveā.
Anime has dialog? Nani?
ANTA BAKA?!*
*translatorās note: baka means āplanā
Who? Is that some indie movie director?
Andrej Karpathy is a former director of AI at Tesla and a founding member of OpenAI
So just a rando with a stupid opinion. Go back to your totally-not-naive AGI vision board.
iterm2 update, moving the shit out of the core application (like it probably shouldāve been in the first place):
3.5.1 This release adds some safety valves to eliminate the risk of private information leaving the terminal via the AI endpoints. While an API key and explicit user action were always needed to use AI features, some users asked for an impenetrable firewall for safety and regulatory purposes. To that end, there are three relevant changes: 1. Code that communicates with AI providers such as OpenAI has been moved into a plugin that you must install separately. Enterprise system admins can block bundle id com.googlecode.iterm2.iTermAI to prevent it from being installed in the first place. See here for details: https://iterm2.com/ai-plugin.html 2. In addition, you must manually enable AI features in Settings. Doing so requires admin access. 3. Enterprise administrators who wish to disable iTerm2's AI access may set the user default GenerativeAIAllowed to False in their MDM systems.still never received a reply email from the author to my mail. wonder what they think/have learned of this experience tho
Iām afraid their character has been exposed
I uninstalled when they announced it but this weekās news says itās time to uninstall macos too
For the moment, Iām choosing to believe the following: 1) that itermdev was operating under hyped-engineer mode and choosing cluelessly as a result (and I sorely hope they learned something through this), 2) that Apple is too selfish to go hard on openai (because it means less money for them)
#2 Iām a smidge more certain about
But both of them are deeply āugh, fuckā kinda feelings for me.
Youāre probably right. I have just lost patience and trust for software in general.
I hear ya.
I havenāt seen the details but apparently Apple may not be paying OpenAI for the ChatGPT functionality. So macOS may not be using ChatGPT heavily.
I seem to remember iTerm doing something weird about 10 years ago, like adding telemetry, but I canāt find itā¦
iTerm2ās leak issue was first discovered ten months ago. iTerm2ās creator initially reacted by adding an option to iTerm 3.0.13 that allowed users to disable DNS lookups. The feature remained turned on by default for new and existing installations.
jfc
to get on my soapbox for a moment: iterm2 is in objc, which still has a lot of the ancillary problems that C has. testing properly is one of them - I can easily see such kind of fuckups slipping past by simple virtue of human error, possibly helped along by shitty tools/choices[0]. for example, I know of nothing in C-land that enables property-based testing, and from a quick check it seems that XCTest also runs on the human-enumerated-tests philosophy. so if no-one writes the test thatāll catch it, it could at best be caught by accident (through something else maybe triggering it).
and people are also really fucking bad at thinking in/about side effects. even a lot of systems thinkers seem to fuck that up.
/soapbox
[0] - I was recently debugging why a particular piece of Go software wasnāt outputting anything I was expecting at the log level I had it set. quickly went to its repo, glanced at the code just to check if my expectation was right, then popped a message to a friend who deals with more Go than I do (which is near-nil, because it is a GARBAGE FUCKING LANGUAGE OF AND CAUSING NIGHTMARES, gah). he reminded me of the fact that Go had fairly recently fixed a bug in its stdlib logging library that had fucked up which levels it would handle things, due to an error in the fucking switch statement. for the stdlib goddamn logger. a bug which had been there for over 2y iirc.
Yeah, I thatās probably what I was thinking of.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40631663
Orange site post with a bunch of people saying burnout is a learning experience and that its okay to be perpetually depressed because it makes you more disruptive.
I donāt have anything clever to say about this.
I mean, it is a ālearning experienceā in the same way a car crash is technically both an experience and something you probably didnāt know first hand before.
Can you gaslight people into thinking burnout is good, actually? HN gives it the olā college try
At last, a compelling reason to use Chat-GPT: https://twitter.com/edzitron/status/1801360053045497942
ChatGPT is dying Use Apple to make it die faster
Tim cook is an absolute hustler
New AdamSomething about tech bros reinventing the train but worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5M7Oq1PCz4
shitty 4k upscales, coming soon for a favourite film near you! (via kottke)
Come to think of it, yeah, the people that need things to be in 8k 144Hz in order to enjoy them would absolutely be fine with AI igniting the atmosphere in the name of high quality pixels
with Glassholes v2 likely to be a thing again sometime soon, canāt wait to see the the ai app that Makes People Around You Attractive. weāll look back fondly to silly fuckups by computational photography pipelines
NullBulge
oh you know it was some furries
edit: their website (now down, but up on the wayback machine) uses ai-generated furry art, which few self-respecting furries (much less hacktivist ones) would touch with a ten-foot pole. or at least, the ones in the furry circles i keep. so it could very well just be opportunists
re your edit, well furry art could be traced back to the creator of the art/or the person who commissioned it, so using AI shit for opsec isnāt totally strange.
thatās one possible reason, yeah. just seems like a really odd choice ā much like the fact that they dislike ācrypto promotionā but still accept payment for secrets in crypto. doesnāt feel like it would be that hard to find a sympathetic furry artist willing to draw in a nondistinct style or keep work under wraps. idk
the only reason it seems odd to me is that the overwhelming majority of furries either actively dislike or hate āai artā. maybe theyāre the odd ones out, or they just donāt care for a throwaway group
Yeah it is weird still. They could also have easily picked a historical piece of furry art, or use some Disney furry images.
but the NULLGE
need a meme image that represents the way Apple is legitimising openai after all the crypto degens were desperate for apple to legitimise nfts. the jealous hot mess rejected for another hot mess
degens
Not your fault, but I really dislike this word and wish people wouldnāt start copying it from the cryptobros. Not a fan of calling people degenerates.
fair shake. I never intended it as a shortened word, just a crypto word in itself. consider this my last use
Rare moment of clarity on EA forum: the fuck are we giving $100k to a video game for
lol at the ādelvedā there. Wonder if itās some intentional contrarian
The response of the grant evaluator is even worse. Just excuses, no admission that they fucked up. Barely even a consideration that this is the sort of thing people have done with flash games, and created in literal weekends at game jams
Obviously the most effective of altruisms is whatever is most likely to create more paperclip believers. The EA games (itās in the game!) philanthropic singularity will allow us to reach the next stage of human evolution: all economic output devoted to mosquito nets and button press simulators.
The EA games (itās in the game!)
I actually heard this in my brain, you monster. well done.
challenge everything
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Nah man we had so much fucking dosh flowing in we had no idea what to even do with it! I mean, how could I possibly resist not allocating some of it to my friends?
But wait, the game developer wrote a story called Singularity 1999: https://web.archive.org/web/20240302011145/https://singularity1999.tv/
Iām not sure Iām brave / bored enough to read.
The sim city clone looks like it could have been neat with some more love, it has a bit of a Streets of SimCity / SimCopter vibe to the aesthetics which was my jam back in the day. Though from the reviews it looks like it made the decision of shying away from low level management aspects or angry headlines yelling at you for your dumb city building choices (so I wouldnāt have played it for that reason, is it even sim city without being told āyouāre going to regret thisā??)
Someone else played simcopter?
I enjoyed it for what it was (helicopter crimes simulator), but lemme tell you the real fun to be had was in Streets of SimCity.
From the level editor, to the soundtrack (I considered it to be edgy at the time), to the bugs (if you donāt create launchers by self-intersecting bridges in SCURK then what are you even doing?), to the ridiculous campaigns and the ability to blow up a nuclear reactor. I didnāt even mind that the graphics looked like sawdust.
Come to think of it I always liked blowing up the nukes as a kid, so I also considered Recoil (the tank game) to be the peak of entertainment.
wait, we have a SimCopter & Streets of Sim City subthread now? fuck yes. Iām here to attach missile launchers to cars my dad fondly remembers, jankily load my simcity2000 game into the level editor and play the resulting broken mess, and crash (both my car and the game engine)
Just gonna leave these songs here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPkFmwT7MZA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiyXwJWbUoY
Everything Maxis did is remake worthy.
"The smile. The optimism. Versus the steely 1000 yard stare.
Ideology preformed in the instant of conception
Physiognomy, simply, does not lie."
immediately know which represents pragmatism vs esoteric theory
What neither of them are doing āThe Stareā, Moore can do it, Crowley could do it, Rasputin can do it. Get these low budget farces out of here, and give me a proper Stare.
Moldbug tries, but he mostly just looks in a way that makes you think āhe just farted and is trying to figure out if I noticedā.
Ah yes, pragmatists, well known for their constantly sunny and optimistic outlook on the future, consequences be damned (?)
man will wheaton really turned to the dark side, didnāt he?
got told to shut up one too many times. See what happens when you censor people libs?
He did???
Update: this guy is an influential (apparently) right wing poster who got doxxed.
Where are these people coming from?
