Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced Friday that he will strip funding for Ukraine out of a Pentagon spending bill after Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) joined conservatives in blocking the legislation from advancing earlier this week.

McCarthy said he would remove the $300 million for Ukraine currently in the Pentagon appropriations bill and hold a separate vote on the funding.

“It would be out and voted on by itself,” McCarthy said when asked about the Ukraine aid in the Pentagon appropriations bill.

The Speaker’s announcement comes one day after a band of five conservatives opposed a procedural vote for the Pentagon appropriations bill, sinking the effort and preventing the legislation from moving forward. It was the second time this week that hard-liners blocked the funding bill from advancing.

  • @phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    Man the Republicans changed. Not 40 years ago everything red is dead, and now they’re falling over eachother to be able to suck Putin’s dick. Anything for money and power, no?

    The weird thing is just that people somehow don’t see this?

    • IWantToFuckSpez
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      Because they have finally realized that modern day Russia is not the Soviet Union. They fucking love what Putin has done to Russia. Putin has turned Russia into a fascist state supported by the Russian Orthodox Church. The Republicans wish they could do the same to the US.

    • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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      I’m from Central America, Republicans and Americans started a proxy war and used as all as fodder, made us fight a civil war where each side was funded by Americans and Russians. They made us all fight and die just to keep the Russians out of this side of the world. They killed so many of our people and torched our country, just so they can call us racist names for fleeing the war to the u.s, and they can suck Putin dick and give in to the Russians they killed us over.

    • @WHYAREWEALLCAPS@lemmy.world
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      Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing. These are people who refuse to admit when they’re wrong, so rather than admit that they were wrong about the Republicans, they just find ways to justify it instead to soothe their psyche. And the people running the show know this and use this to great effect.

    • hypelightfly
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      Try 10-11 years ago. Republicans were still pointing to Russia as the biggest threat to the US at the time. They still weren’t right but it’s a 180 turn to now.

    • mrnotoriousman
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      The weird thing is just that people somehow don’t see this?

      I have the unfortunate privilege of having to hear right wing rumble shit almost daily. These people are repeatedly being fed whatever the Kremlin says and literally everyone else is wrong. The sad part is you can go back months and none of the shit (not just wrt Ukraine) has ever materialized but they kept getting promised that it will. And the globalist elite is going to be destroyed by Rump any day now. He has them right where he wants them and only he can save us! And yes, that is word for word something I’ve heard countless times.

  • @Beaphe@lemmy.world
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    She told him in front of an audience that she would “fuck him up” six months ago.

    Imagine being terrified of Mammy Traitor Green.

  • Nougat
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    Well, why don’t we have every single line item in its own bill then, and vote up or down on every single thing? Perhaps every individual word could be its own bill.

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      Honestly, I feel like maybe that’s the way it should be.

      It’s idealistic, I know, but I really dislike the idea of tit for tat pork being attached to get routine government programs funded.

      The problem is these assholes prefer to extract everything they can through brinksmanship and spinning tires rather than actually going to the compromise they all know will be settled on.

      • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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        If we’re talking gov funding bills they should all be passed a year in advance. This constant edging shit is a result of the news cycle.

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          exactly. In an ideal world, each item should be it’s own thing, discussed on it’s own merits, without any risk of that thing getting defunded because of political wankery. they certainly shouldn’t be lumping in a watering down of federal authority to control immigration rules, for example.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) announced Friday that he will strip funding for Ukraine out of a Pentagon spending bill after Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) joined conservatives in blocking the legislation from advancing earlier this week.

    McCarthy said he would remove the $300 million for Ukraine currently in the Pentagon appropriations bill and hold a separate vote on the funding.

    The Speaker’s announcement comes one day after a band of five conservatives opposed a procedural vote for the Pentagon appropriations bill, sinking the effort and preventing the legislation from moving forward.

    The rule failed for a second time on the same day that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky met with lawmakers in the Capitol.

    “Our defense appropriations bill should never be going to fund a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine, so this is a victory for common sense,” she later added.

    The failed rule vote Thursday was a blow to McCarthy, who has sought to advance the appropriations process ahead of a Sept. 30 shutdown deadline — to no avail.


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  • jimmydoreisalefty
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    Crazy how we in the left used to be antiwar, now the right is doing everything we used to be for, where did our morals go…

    The duopoly is still the problem, vote 3rd party, once you learn and see how the system works.

    • kirklennon
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      Voting against funding for Ukraine is objectively pro-war, specifically pro Russia winning a war of aggression, which will encourage more wars of aggression. You don’t stop wars by kneecapping the victims; you stop them from happening by teaching violent dictators that they will lose.

      • jimmydoreisalefty
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        Sticking your head in the sand is not going to help you learn more of the world.

        You need to be willing to see other views different from yours.

        I hope you continue to keep learning and talking to people that differ from your bubbles, as I try to.

        Thank you for the small talk and have a great day!

      • jimmydoreisalefty
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        That seems like pro-war, more working class people dying for the wealthy class.

        Peace deals used to be the lefts goto, the US president would have to start the talks before the last Ukrainian is dead.

        • Deceptichum
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          What libshit hippie bullshit are you about?

          We on the left have always been about violent armed resistance to authoritarianism and imperialism, of which right now Ukraine is fighting off.

          • jimmydoreisalefty
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            Oh, okay.

            It is more of the Democrats on the left that used to be antiwar, then? I used to see more talks of ending the endless wars.

            Left of the Democrats are for wars?

          • kirklennon
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            This is the same kind of guy who abuses environmental review laws to delay a developer into giving up construction of a new apartment building because it’s not 100% low-income housing, and then pats himself on the back for helping the poor, all while causing rents to increase. It’s a combination of self-righteous zeal and pure laziness in refusal to think through the logical consequences of an action.

            • jimmydoreisalefty
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              Well, homeless shelters are always proposed to be built in cities, but the homeowners in the area vote them down so they do not lose value, due to homeless shelter nearby.

              The zoning laws and gov’t have systems in place for avg people, while loopholes for those with money.

              Russia and Ukraine is another endless war, that we (US) started with NATO to help military industrial complex.

              • kirklennon
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                I hope the FSB pays you well for spreading Putin’s genocidal propaganda. You’re a terrible person; have an awful day.

                • jimmydoreisalefty
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                  People that disagree with your view points are not paid by the Bogeyman (insert current political villian here).

                  Endless wars will not help the civilians that are stuck in the middle of gov’t games.

                  Peace talks have been done before, look at the history of Finland.

        • kirklennon
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          more working class people dying for the wealthy class.

          Ukraine has been invaded by a genocidal neighbor. They aren’t dying for “the wealthy class”; they’re fighting to protect their homeland and their families. They’re not even asking for us to risk our lives, only for the the tools they need to defend themselves.

          Peace deals used to be the lefts goto

          The modern left learned that appeasement is pro-war.

          • jimmydoreisalefty
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            Well, we know what happens, look at: Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Niger, Uganda, Kenya, Pakistan, Yemen

            I do not see any improvements on these countries that we helped get democracy and freedom?

            Am i missing something?

            Peace tallks would always be the solution to the problems in the end, when it comes to areas close to superpowers.

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              Ukraine already is a democracy, being invaded by a dictatorship. We’re not trying to establish one from scratch, as in Afghanistan. A free country is begging for help so it can protect itself. You are siding quite unambiguously with the aggressor.

              Peace talks with Russia mean Russia won. It means launching an aggressive war worked. It means Russia will launch another aggressive war. It means China will invade Taiwan. The only peaceful end to this war is with Russia losing and with its complete withdrawal from Ukrainian territory. Anything other than that is not peace but the start of further bloodshed.

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          There is a peace deal on the table. If Russia retreats every single soldier out of Ukraine and recognizes all of Ukraines territory and the borders the war is over. But guess who doesn’t agree with that deal? That’s the only deal that Ukraine should make with Russia. There is nothing to negotiate over, the borders have been drawn and internationally recognized decades ago. Any deal where Russia gets to redraw the borders and go home with spoils of war will only make Russia bolder and ready to invade other former Soviet states.

          • jimmydoreisalefty
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            Golden bridge is needed for a superpower, so they can back down, without losing face in their country.

            Does a cornered animal give up or fights back?

            This will just result in more death for both sides, with no end in site.


            Democracy Now interviewed Yanis Varoufakis, I think his view is important to consider:

            Becomes common sense when explained by Yanis.

            (4 min mark about the golden bridge)

            Yanis Varoufakis: The West Is “Playing with Fire” If It Pushes Regime Change in Nuclear-Armed Russia

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4czYxGYxo


            Yanis Varoufakis on Putin’s invasion of Ukraine & the US policy of ensuring the war goes on forever

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAtdOL5kt0Y

            • Deceptichum
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              Russa is the invader.

              Nothing else matters. Stop invading.

              • jimmydoreisalefty
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                Ukraine is being used to try to weaken Russia.

                The US military companies are making lots of profits.

                In the end, more migration will happen due to Europe out bidding the 3rd world countries, in buying oil and other resources, which will result in more starvation of people.

                Yanis Varoufakis: It’s mad to think Ukraine can win

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNbad82plR0

                • Deceptichum
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                  If Russia does not want to be weakened, it can stop invading.

                  Nothing else matters. Stop invading.

    • blazera
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      Those damn ukrainians invading their own country

      • jimmydoreisalefty
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        Peace talks should be the goal, not making the wealthy class richer with these wars that somehow keep happening out of nowhere.

        Woody Harrelson - Pressekonferenz Cannes 2022 -Truth Triangle of Sadness - von Vietnam bis Ukraine

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyyrXBkjrmA

        • blazera
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          Im sure theyll be much more open to peace talks when russia stops killing people in their own country.

  • @Armen12@lemm.ee
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    Good, no more foreign wars, this isn’t what democrats should be focused on

    • Davel23
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      We’re funding Ukraine so we won’t have to fight a foreign war.

      • jimmydoreisalefty
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        Well, it looks more like a reason to start WWIII.

        We are also pushing China with Taiwan.

        800+ military bases outside of the US, many are being built close to China and Russia, which they will not like.

        Remember the Cuban Missle Crisis?

        • DontMakeMoreBabies
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          Every dollar spent killing Russians today is a US life saved tomorrow.

          And fuck 'em - they decided to invade their neighbors.

          • jimmydoreisalefty
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            Working class people being killed for the wealthy class will not help make your life better.

            The gov’t decided to, similar to what we in the US do.

            Looking at all the countries we have brought democracy and freedom to.

            Peace talks can only start with US president talking with the other superpower.

            Look at the conflicts in Finland and Russia to learn a bit more on how that was resolved.

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              Lmao “superpower” How is your 3 day special military operation going, comrade?

    • IWantToFuckSpez
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      Guess the US should also close every forward operating base then and let our allies in East Asia fend for themselves against China and North Korea.