Even though this is most likely fake, it’s still worth a reminder, that learning how to fly drones is a hobby that could have some extra utility if the situation develops further in a way, where things may be needed that would be illegal to mention on reddit.
And even if that doesn’t happen - still a very cool hobby.
Learning to build and fly drones has been on my to do list for several reasons. Number one they are freaking cool. Number two, if we need to defend ourselves/assassinate dictators/fight against the government, normal guns are kind of obsolete at this point.
The new edition of the anarchists cookbook needs to include instructions on how to 3D print drones and program them to take out targets with AI.
with AI
Oh for fuck’s sake…
Lol, ML image recognition is also AI. Don’t think they want drones that talk shit.
ML target recognition is fine and good if you’re a fascist in charge of an ethnostate who doesn’t give a fuck about minimising the number of civilian casualties, but I’d’ve hoped anarchists would actually care enough to have their weapons controlled by actual people.
Yeah, I suppose you’re right. Might not want to get too familiar with having collateral damage in our vocabulary.
Well it would be nice if we could verbally insult people by drone.
ChatGPT can you drone strike Elon Musk for me?
better ask grok he will be happy to help
the first edition was literally random bullshit zines put together in one book… half of the “recipes” kill you…
It’s a bit challenging if you don’t have good reaction timing.
Or if you didn’t know you could mix your trims and not make the throttle cut or spike every turn
This guy trims.
This guy drones.
Wouldn’t RC planes be easier to DIY? I wonder if it would carry more weight relative to its cost too. Bring back dive bombing?
I do not know what you are talking about. I certainly never heard of DIY cheap foam board planes you could pop a fpv camera on and fly. Certainly never would mention the word flite and test in the same sentence because I’d worry about foam board or youtube videos or a particular group getting shut down.
on top of that, you can get all the Top Ukrainian drone Tech on Alibaba. TheChinese have developed some top notch shit and they got a lot of it sell. fiber controls, remote relays, release mechanisms, all sorts of fun toys
Funnily enough I noticed that banggood has some decent deals if ur willing to wait for the boat to bring it over.
It can be fake but fake turns to reality fast on the internet, remember tide pods?
Remember /r/The_Donald?
friendly reminder that unless you build your drone from scratch or flash some fancy firmware it has an ID that gets broadcast and can be traced back to you. be safe
Bet you get drone control laws before you gun control laws in the US.
Just tape a gun to a drone for immunity.
Lmao there are already drone control laws
I must have missed the new laws that have a mandatory 3 day waiting period to buy a new drone, drones can only be purchased from a licensed dealer, dealers have to check against a national registry that a buyer is not prohibited from buying one, felons can’t buy drones, and that straw purchasing a drone is a federal offense. Must have missed all that.
But… the drone show loophole!
I mean there are literally areas where commercial drones can’t fly, as in the software won’t allow it. The tracking and registration system is certainly a bit more robust than guns. While all the rules aren’t the same, you would expect it because, unlike guns, there are a lot of uses for drones besides killing things.
They are currently trying. The are trying to ban DJI drones as the first step.
It’s going to be hard to ban electric motors, wifi chips and accelerometers.
Sure, the average user who needs to buy a DJI drone may be affected, but drones are made from parts that are ubiquitous.
How would it be traced to you? You can buy drones second hand for cash.
DJI drones, for example, broadcast an ID at a loud enough wattage that it can literally be triangulated and traced back to the controlling radio Tx without any difficulty.
It got a lot ruzzian wannabe drone pilots killed early on in their invasion of Ukraine, before they learned to change the firmware on them first.
Edit: It’s trivial to build an FPV drone from parts nowadays, there is no way anyone should be using DJI drones for tasks such as the OP.
DJI stuff is more expensive, less durable, and less user serviceable.
Ahh so you mean finding your position live. Rather than tracking who you are after the fact. If you did such a thing and left before anyone with equipment arrived then you don’t really have to worry.
That said other options have already been mentioned.
Doing DYI drone is interesting, is there a cool forum or anything to get started with basics quickly?
While this is funny as hell (and likely fake, because everything on the Internet is fake, and probably gay), it’s a good reminder of just how incredibly fucking not-what-you’d-expect of the shit hits the fan civil war wise. Farmers with drones and some fertilizers can really fuck some shit up
The IRA used farm equipment, I think a manure spreader, to spray tens of thousands of gallons of fuel at a military installation.
Just one example of that type of thinking.
Wow, just looked it up, but it didn’t quite hit me until I saw one of those things work.
More info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_tactical_vehicles_of_the_Provisional_IRA
This would have been of the liquid variety, rather than chunks, but you get the idea.
Tbh spreading shit in an urban area is certainly one form of protest
is this slaughterbots
i bet this is slaughterbots
clicks
wasnt disappointed
Well fuck.
Edit: oh god this video is 6 years old.
Every time I see this I think just how fucked we are if this is developed. Then I saw the hybrid drone warfare in Ukraine and I know we are pretty fucking close.
Sneak preview of the upcoming American insurgency?
I will eat my hat if enough Americans can get up off their richest-nation-on-earth-sized asses and actually fight the system in any meaningful capacity. These Tesla vandalisms are cathartic but not at all going to have impact on anything other than Tesla and Tesla owners.
I am betting the current ruling class is just fine if the people are organizing to vandalize a car brand instead of actually marching on Washington or organizing an actual strike that could do harm to businesses.
We are fat cattle in a gilded cage in this country. If you opened the gates we wouldn’t know where to go or what to do. We would likely just construct a new fence.
i mean, i don’t disagree with anything you’ve said except the rhetoric that it is an unchangeable constant.
sure, this is all true. beating the idea that it’s an inescapable reality into american’s heads online sure isn’t going to help change it tho. these people are still people, just like you.
I also used to believe that this was just a “challenge” that humans need to overcome, but then I learned a little about the brain and now I’m convinced we’ve plateaued and it’s a miracle we can do any of this at all.
Send in the dogshit robots!
Yes. This is the most hopeful news I’ve had all day.
Cars are expensive and attacking people who worked hard to get what they once thought was the option in the market is counterproductive.
I’m all for this on the dealerships but a lot of people can’t afford to just sell their vehicle, some can’t afford normal maintenance expenses, on a vehicle that is likely heavily financed.
I mean, all out for cybertrucks and the other arseholes that are now aware of who Musk really is and what a fraud Tesla as a brand is but indiscriminately attacking ALL Teslas could be hurting vulnerable people that aren’t in the financial situation to dispose of their car.
This is a boring take. Everyone to the center left has tried extensively to talk through why what’s happening is bad, wrong, awful, stupid, in all the best faith ways there is to literally deaf ears. Every word is intentionally misunderstood and weaponized for further propaganda. Speech has been watered down by a torrent of others saying nothing and nonsense.
Tesla has been steadily declining with every action Elon takes. Trade-ins exist, they’ve been viable for years. If they’ve had them for awhile, they bought them when they were considered cutting edge. Who is buying bleeding edge tech while being financially unable to trade it in for something else from then to now?
Talking has produced nothing, warranting action. Elon has been steadily descending into madness for all to see, it’s no secret and it wasn’t fast. Those who still have them and those that buy them even now do so willingly. Ignorance at this stage is not an excuse. These people aren’t vulnerable any more than someone who buys a pair of Yeezy shoes. “What if they can’t afford another pair??” Brother stop.
I bought my tesla before I knew musk was a nazi. I cannot afford to just get rid of it. Anybody damaging my car is not helping the cause.
I bought my tesla before I knew musk was a nazi.
when was that?
Exceptions to every rule. Why haven’t you, since learning this, attempted to trade it in? I understand not being able to get an entirely new car from zero but Tesla has kept it’s value until very recently. Why hold it?
No one wants to buy one. Who will they trade with? What dealership is buying these for anything reasonable?
I hear ads on the radio that polestar is giving 20k trade in for your Tesla. Idk their financing options so they might still be expensive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if other electric car makers will give similar incentive to switch brands.
Ben Shaprio take
Destroying a random man’s tesla is not action. Action is going to your congress man’s door and showing them you mean business when you torch their car. Torching a random guy’s car (who’s probably left of center, given they’re driving electric) is counterproductive.
Really? Tesla seems to be pretty undesirable right now being targets for vandalism. Vandalism inspired by a majority shareholder practicing facism openly. Congress is doing nothing, it’s majority Republican, they will take no action against Trump. It’s a complete waste of time.
Again, if you still have a Tesla now, you are not center left. Everyone’s had the chance to trade it in prior to the stocks diving, right now it’s a conscious choice. It’s not “some poor, random citizen” it’s a Musk supporter. Full stop.
Furthermore, he’s Trump’s boyfriend, even got him to do a Tesla commercial on the Whitehouse lawn. Electric cars are for the right too now!
You assume so much of other’s people’s lives. It must be easy to live like that, huh? Is it so hard to imagine that other people live different lives and may not have had the ability or desire to trade it in? Too bad for them, I guess.
You can have your opinions, but attacking cars of people who are not involved in making decisions that matter is nonsensical and short-sighted at best.
Where’s the assumption? If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling. Buying one of the first EVs is not a “I’m broke” decision the same as buying luxury shoes. Your position is that in the last five or so years someone could have zero ability to trade in their brand new Tesla? Use common sense, I implore you. Obviously there are outliers but no, most people had the chance.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense. Support of fascism should be met with escalating resistance. We’ve had years to discuss it, yet here we are.
If you buy a luxury brand, you’re not struggling.
People can lose their jobs after buying something. People can stretch beyond their means to buy something.
Tesla is not a luxury brand by any stretch of the imagination.
brand new Tesla?
If it’s used it’s by definition not brand new lol. 5 years has not been recent enough to realize musk is a Nazi. Closer to around 2 more realistic. Maybe 1 even.
You argue like a Republican, with bad faith “some people might not fit your generalization!” nonsense.
That’s not a Republican argument.
Trading a car in is a big decision if you aren’t rich, especially if it’s your first newer car.
Fredthefishlord made some great points. Your timeline is completely off and unrealistic. The major controversies surrounding Musk have only really come to light in the past couple years. Before that, buying a Tesla was seen as a green, eco-friendly option with newer technology. Expecting people to trade in their Tesla immediately, or even within a year or so, is just unrealistic.
Second, financing exists. Not everyone who buys a nice car is well off or in a position to trade it in, and even if they are, that doesn’t mean it’s the best option for them. Trade-ins still usually require a deposit if you want something equally beneficial. Not everyone can afford that, especially with how recent all of this is. You act like this was some long-term open secret when in reality a lot of people bought their cars before any of this was common knowledge.
You argue like a Republican. You ignore the actual points made just so you can keep pushing this closed-minded idea that everyone should see everything exactly as you do and act at the exact pace you expect. If they don’t, they deserve to be attacked and have their car destroyed, even if it’s their only way to work and make the money they’d need to replace it. That’s absurd.
This is just selfish and short-sighted. “They don’t think like me so attack them until they do” is not activism, it’s just stupidity. You’re advocating for harming random people (yes harming people’s method of travel/income is harming their livelihood) who might not even support Musk, just because you assume they do. At best you’re wasting energy. At worst you’re hurting people who don’t deserve it.
Right like anybody is going to come to a different conclusion that they actually can afford to get a different car just because one guy on the Internet says so. Dumping a perfectly working vehicle just because the brand personality of the make no longer fits your ideal self is fiscally irresponsible.
To quote freely from the kangaroo:“why is the left so much worse than the right? - The left burns cars, the right burns foreigners. I own a car, but I don’t own a foreigner“
Sell the Tesla cars for scraps? At least the disillusioned owners would get something.
Turn the car panels into pans. Something stainless steel is actually good for.
Boo hoo. Supporting a Nazi should be financial suicide. Unless the car is a 2015 or before, the emerald mine owners son has been a piece of shit.
I was waiting for the inevitable hand wringing “direct action bad” comment.
Tell me this is real, it sounds too good to be real
It’s probably made up bullshit to legitimize Moron’s desire to call tesla vandalism “terrorism” and throw people in jail
Don’t forget making drones illegal and putting drone owners in jail for no reason.
The possibilities are endless!
Not “no reason.” It’ll be because they’re brown. Or trans. Or college educated. Or left of center…
I wouldn’t be angry if we got a little more serious and started doing this to ICE vehicles
Honestly, we just need a trebuchet aimed at the white house and mara largo. Mara largo is absolutely not secure, and I doubt the white house is prepared for large boulders.
You send this to enough people and even if its not real it will be soon.
I know that fascist morons are taking over America but won’t somebody PLEASE think of the Teslas!
acid is gonna do dogshit on cars, if it doesn’t splash away in half a second the paint will protect the car
unless
looks at cybertrucks
Fucking water kills those trucks. A goddamn car wash voids the warranty
Paint stripper rips through car paint like a hot knife through butter
I really wish that people had listened to us (collectively) if not when we were pointing out that Musk was union busting, then at least when he made the useless metal death tube to rescue children out of an underwater cave and accused the guy who actually got them out of being … (cw: holy fucking shit)
spoiler
… a pedo
But no, years later and now people suddenly see it. Better late than never, but god damn if a lot of the damage hasn’t already been done.
I’m surprised you can breathe in that ivory tower. the air must be really thin.
so, what did you do outside of an arm chair to stop the spread of Musk branded fascism?
What’s your problem? The OP said they wish people turned against Musk sooner. I do too. And since you’re talking about ‘Musk branded fascism’, I assume you agree as well. So why are you being a dick?
Go shopping for some frozen fish, test drive a Tesla, ‘forget’ your grocery bag after. Make sure it’s right before dealership closing time for maximum effect.
The only downside of this plan is you have to drive a Tesla. Sacrifices have to be made.
Is there anything illegal with shitting yourself in a test drive?
Illegal? Probably not, but you’d be on the hook for cleaning costs
This is asking a lot.
Awesome. I support people fighting as hard as they can to defend their country.
The Swasticar belongs in a Museum.
Not to be honored, but to remembered as the car of American Fascism, an exhibit to ensure we never forget atrocity
Cameras are not a security feature. It is a surveillance feature.
I am doubtful this is true… are there any other sources?
Honest question, maybe this is silly, but what acid would be unable to eat through a water balloon, but still strong enough to eat through automotive paint?
Edit: lots of great answers below, if you’re taking notes. 😉
but what acid would be unable to eat through a water balloon, but still strong enough to eat through automotive paint?
Paint strippers often come in plastic bottles, but destroys the bond between paint and metal.
Also even light acids like vinegar can be enough to etch and damage, but not remove paints - or in the case of the cybertruck, accelerate corrosion on the stainless.
Those plastic bottles that hold diluted acids and alcohols are usually PP (polypropylene) or HDPE (high density polyethylene) or similar plastics that are a lot tougher than thin, flexible plastic bags (LDPE, PET) and I imagine balloons too
Party/water baloons are usually made from latex, which is resistant to some acids but not others.
Another option is to use nitrile or vinyl gloves.
https://glovesbyweb.com/pages/gloves-chemical-resistance-chart
You’re not really looking for long-term storage, so as long as the material holds up for a few min while you fly around… You may even want it to disolve to destroy evidence and ensure the acid is actually deployed.
Tbh I really hope nobody is flying anything particularly corrosive around in a water balloon, that has far too much potential to do harm to an unlucky randomer.
The Signal group imbeciles were pretty chuffed about an ENTIRE apartment building being collapsed on their single person target. Collateral damage from a bursting balloon seems trivial, by comparison…
Chemicals react with different materials differently. I’m not a chemist but there are probably plenty of chemicals that would react with the stainless steel or paint of a tesla but not the rubber in a balloon. Bleach and ammonia off the top of my head would probably mess up the trim pretty good. Doesn’t have to burn holes to do damage.
do not mix bleach and ammonia under any circoumstamce, you will die from a painful hydrazine (poisonous) and nitrogen trichloride (explosive) death
Yeah I knew that. But separately they would be good to mess up car exteriors I would think. Always good to have that psa though.
Brake fluid?
Regular DOT3 brake fluid is quite harmful to paint especially if it’s unnoticed and won’t be cleaned off for several hours. You can pump the stuff through rubber brake lines no problem, so I imagine a balloon would be able to survive it.
Water balloons are pretty weak, something like acetone or xylene could fuck up the paint but would also damage the balloon. Acids are unlikely to do much, they’re both made of plastic polymers.
You could probably fill a water balloon with paint, though. Or epoxy.
You buy most acids, commercially, in plastic bottles… Those bottles would probably split nicely if dropped from a great enough height. Thus, you get impact damage, and the acid would enhance any damage done. Although, now I’m thinking about it, glass bottles would shatter better…Nitric acid, anyone?
Nitric acida lot like stepping up from vandalism to attempted murder.
I was really just thinking of the swastikars in isolation. You are, of course, correct. That’s not a tool to be used if there’s bystanders nearby.
Ferric chloride will eat metal too
Seems the working class spends too much time attacking their own instead of actually going after elon musk
You know in those movies where the hero has to beat the living hell from a thousand grunts before they are able to get at the boss? And you don’t feel too bad for the grunts, even though they’re not millionaires or the guys doing the big evil stuff, because they chose to align themselves with a villain like the boss?
It’s kind of like that. If people don’t want to own a Tesla because they’ll be targeted for aligning themselves with Musk, Tesla’s stock goes down, which hurts the boss.
I’m not saying I support it (and I’m not saying I don’t), but saying that this is hurting the Working Class and not the real Bad Guy is missing the point.
Counter point = some folks bought Tesla (the normal ones not the weird “truck” things) because they wanted a more environmentally friendly option for a car. Back before awareness that Musk is an asshole was common.
Like some of the owners might be regretful but not in a position to sell at a huge loss and buy a different EV.
Nah. Musk was calling that rescue diver saving kids trapped in cave a pedo before the model 3 came out. It was clear, public knowledge that he was a douchebag very early on.
Not everyone is online as much as we are. Lots of people are utterly unaware that ever happened.
That’s true but buying a Tesla is honestly a pretty online move.
Valid.
Being unaware doesn’t protect from consequences. Even morally, in a democracy, it’s up to the people to be informed. Buying decisions drive policy. It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed. This alone should start a general strike.
With all the things that are looming, imagine the price you are going to pay because you were not online enough.
Do you know about the personality of each companies CEO you buy something from?
No. That’s why this is important:
It should worry people that they don’t have the time nor tools to be informed
What if a person bought a Tesla 10 years ago (before folks knew what an asshole Musk was) to reduce dependence on foreign oil.
Do you think that person deserves to have their car vandalized?
No, but they could have cut their losses by selling when Musk’s character became clear.
That was the exact moment I realized what a dickhead he is
EVERY big company CEO is a piece of shit. They just keep it behind closed doors. Fuckface decided to do it in the open.
You probably own clothes right now made by kids in Pakistan. How would you feel if someone set them on fire while you were wearing them?
You gonna slap the food out of people’s mouths because they shop at Walmart?
Wanna kick some homeless dude for wearing a donated Tesla T-shirt?
At some point you gotta realize everyone is a victim of capitalism and punishing them for being part of the system they’re born into is the opposite of how you get them to look around and wake up.
If they really want catharsis they’d go after Tesla showrooms. Musk actually owns those, so you’ll actually be hurting his bottom line directly, instead of fucking over someone who bought the only car you could even get during the pandemic.
Really, if you’re pissed at him fuck with him, not some random with a car payment who probably hates him as much as you do.
(I really want to say cybertrucks are fair game, but that’s the goblin talking, and you really shouldn’t listen to the goblin. If your goal is accelerationism, then we have nothing to say to each other)
This was important for me to read, thank you.
Yeah but I kind of expect every CEO to be on that level of douchebaggery. We wouldn’t be able to buy everything if that’s the bar, because the CEO of every company is on that level.
Also we can’t expect everyone to be aware of that story.
It’s when he bought Twitter and started going on about woke mind virus that he revealed himself as a bigger douche than most CEOs.
Yeah, the twitter debacle fucking broke him I wonder if there’s an alternative timeline where he weaseled out of having to buy it and decided to calm down and shut the fuck up afterwards.
Maybe this is the timeline where he eats enough drugs to explode his own heart on a livestream.
Not everyone follows social media or the news like you. And not everyone bases their buying decisions on the personality of the company’s CEO. I think most people don’t. And probably most CEOs are douchebags
Cybertrucks are still an acceptable target. He proved who he was by then.
Agree. Plus they are utterly ridiculous.
Counterpoint: We’ve known how fucked up he is for years. It was just hero worshipping suckers who bought into his bullshit. Anyone with half a brain recognized him for exactly what he always has been.
Most people I know keep a car for 10+ years. The Thai thing was like six years ago and he wasn’t on my radar before then.
The huge loss (in sales volume and therefore 2nd hand price) has mainly occurred because Musk is meddling politically.
Shit dropped from drones is just icing on the cake.
I am 100% in support of boycotting Tesla.
Just if someone bought a Tesla as their personal vehicle 10 years ago because they wanted an environmentally friendly car - before we knew what an asshole Musk was - I don’t think they deserve to have their personal property damaged/destroyed.
Sell the car.
At this point they’d get almost nothing for it - certainly not enough to buy a replacement car.
I’m just saying it helps to carefully target the people you actually are trying to hurt. It doesn’t help a movement if they start hurting bystanders.
Musk is the one hurting Tesla owners with his policies. Yes tesla owners are collateral damage, but the US government cares very little about collateral damage.
If him being an asshole is new news to you then you weren’t paying attention.
Lots of people aren’t online as much as you and I are. They might have bought an EV for environmental reasons 10 years ago without even noticing who owned the company.
People buying Teslas: ¯\(ツ)/¯ My bad. I’m sorry, I didn’t know how bad he was.
People voting for trump: ¯\(ツ)/¯ My bad. I’m sorry, I didn’t know how bad he was.
People in this thread: Hey, that’s OK, Corky, you can’t be expected to be informed.
Just to inform you: most people don’t care about the owner of their car brand. Do you know the owner of most, Toyota shares (without looking it up) ? People see Tesla, which is the most well known electric car brand, the Jones have one too, let’s buy one.
I think you’re missing the point. Personally, when I watch those movies, I think about whether the guard who just got turned into a parapalegic was just an ex-military guy who picked up a security job. For that matter, I wonder about how many people joined the German military in 1932, with no idea what their country would become. They still had to be fought through to affect the leader. Yes, any given grunt, any given infantry, is hurt considerably more than the big fish, but the way of the world is that a lot of little fish must suffer before the big fish feels it.
Not every big fish can be luigi-ed. Some have a security detail.
There seems to be a misunderstanding indeed. What I was saying is that most tesla owners aren’t SS members who kill people and defend musk, they just bought a car for another reason (ecology, looking cool, showing off, they like the big display etc…) and might not even know that musk has something to do with tesla (I know, it’s hard to believe, but people genuinely don’t care who makes their cars)
Ya man. That’s pretty much it. Destruction of already paid for and profited on privet property is absolutely pointless.
If you wanna hit these guys hard, people like Elon and his billionair ilk. Take they’re money. That’s what they fight for anyway, that’s all they want and it’s their most greatest fear.
Take their money give them a menial job somewhere getting paid $15.45 an hour. See how they like it.
Musk has lost about half of his money because much fewer people want to buy a Tesla now.
I dont think its the best way to get at their money but if they continue to get vandalized and ppl either sell them (flooding used market) or don’t buy them, the stock price might return to normal amount. I’m not advocating for that but it seems like a solution
Any alternative solutions for affecting a wealthy persons money?
Waiting for an explanation of how we take down a billionaire
They have the drones. They have the acid-filled balloons. Seems like they’ve got the recipe?
They need an address…
I certainly don’t have it. Bet no one here does. If we did, we could send polite letters requesting change.
jokes.
We already have a demonstration of how to do that a few months ago.
Yeah that all sounds good until you realize there aren’t hundreds of people willing to a) murder bad people and b) sacrifice their lives for it.
You might say the military is full of people who somewhat fit this description but that can only exist through millennia of false narratives about honor and nationalism. The fact that Luigi’s action was controversial illustrates the difference perfectly. How many times have you seen a reaction anything like that to a war crime committed by a soldier somewhere in the Middle East? You barely even saw reactions when we saw videos of people laughing while killing innocent people from a helicopter.
Billionaires have to be fought in their wallets. Use their precious “free market” against them.
So far, Tesla stock is down about 60%, sales are tanking, the company image and brand is badly damaged, recovery seems far away, and frankly bankruptcy seems closer. If Tesla dies, Musk loses billions, AND his most lucrative division.
It will also hurt the wallets of many other Sociopathic Oligarchs, who are also heavily invested in Tesla. Destroy a few other companies like that, and they may start to listen a bit harder.
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I think fighting billionaires in their wallets is the exact wrong way because they have so much money it doesn’t even affect their personal life when they lose 90% or more of their wealth.
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Musk already is in a position of power which no money of the world can (or maybe should) buy you. So even if he loses all his money he will still have that power and continue to abuse it.
They dont think about money like we do. I remember a situation in a TV show where a successful actor lost half his money to a crooked financial advisor, and he was commiserating with his normal friends.
“I lost $30 million!”
“Wow, thats awful, how much of your money was that?”
“About 50%.”
“So you still have $30 million?”
“Yeah, but I lost $30 million.”
“Yeah, but you still have $30 million!”
“Yeah, but I LOST $30 million!”
Rich people often focus on how much they DON’T have, rather than how much they do have. That’s why they are always grasping for more, despite having no use for it at all. It’s a mental illness like hoarding, except it’s money instead of old newspapers or cats.
When a Sociopathic Oligarch like The MuskRat loses half his fortune, he isn’t thinking “Who cares? I’ve still got more than I’ll ever need.” All they can think about is how much they lost. This Tesla crash will haunt him until the day he dies, even if it recovers, which I increasingly doubt it will. 50/50 it ends in bankruptcy within a couple of years.
That’s why we should double and triple down and make it really hurt. I’ve taken to actually asking Tesla owners what made them turn into a Nazi. I don’t bother to stand around waiting for an answer, I don’t care. I just want them to hear how people are judging them harshly for their choice of vehicle.
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