As per .world worldnews mod, no discussing naughty stuff like jury nullification.
While this post is blowing up, here’s the book referenced by the shooter:
Delay Deny Defend - Why Insurance Companies Don’t Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It
By request: Full, uncensored video of the shooting. (Fucking obviously NSFW)
Nullification is your duty when the law is unjust. Also not illegal
Fuck the censors who think they can decide what others talk about!
They keep trying to take down my post where I dox one of the Neo-Nazis from x.
Go ahead and ban my fucking account I don’t give a shit. I’ll just spoof my device fingerprint and continue to dox on a new account.
Cyan Cruz 14008 Echo Ln, Austin, TX 78732
Make Nazis afraid again
Doxxing is pretty bad though, and there’s no reason anyone should just go believing a claim like that.
Not as bad as being a Nazi.
Violence is warranted sometimes. Especially when the future of your country is at stake
Sounds like some corpo shit
It is the instance for liberals.
Yes but they think that’s a good thing
Honestly, I’d rather they all stay on that instance, then infecting the rest of the fediverse.
Yes but unfortunately they want to be the fediverse to people. Still waiting for their lemmy replacement sublinks to happen or get dumped
I want to find a new home instance, just randomly picked this one when I signed up moving from reddit.
Anybody got any suggestions or one’s to avoid?
Personally I’d recommend picking an instance that at least has Hexbear and Lemmygrad blocked, as that removes 95% of the toxicity you’d see on the platform. You can check what an instance blocks by scrolling to the bottom of their main page and clicking the instances link.
Sopuli.xyz is a really solid medium sized general instance, with good admins and an updated lemmy.
Lemmy.cafe is a nice small instance (not much local activity, so you’ll need to rely on the All view and your subscriptions for that one).
If you have affinity with Anarchism (or environmentalism or sailing the high seas), Slrpnk.net and lemmy.dbzer0 are both excellent.
But if you’d like a more themed instance that appeals to a particular interest, by all means go for that instead. https://lemmyverse.net/ or the instance finder tool at https://join-lemmy.org/ are good places to find one. :)
You can block those on any instance.
Unfortunately an individual blocking an instance only stops posts from those instances from showing up, but you can still see comments and responses from the users of the blocked instance.
Ah, I blocked them and then haven’t seen anymore of them, so I assumed that blocked me from seeing their comments. Guess I’ve just been lucky.
Your instance is
fullydefederated fromthemLemmygrad.No it isn’t.
Ah, quite right! My mistake.
https://lemm.ee is generalist, second biggest instance, cool admins, federated with almost everyone
Lemmy.zip is a bit more techy, but very transparent: https://lemmy.zip/post/27236300 also federated with almost everyone
If you look for instance defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad, there is https://sopuli.xyz/ and https://discuss.online/
https://reddthat.com/ is nice too, but disables downvotes
https://lemm.ee is generalist, second biggest instance, cool admins, federated with almost everyone
try discussing that german regime is ran by nazi nepo babies and see how long you last on there…
Huh?
Mark Felton Productions youtube channel recently covered the topic and it is a good place to enter the topic.
TLDR: much of german oligarch class made their money from slave labour during third Reich, that money was then used to rebuilt west germany and their children are currently ruling it. Old Germany families were also were able to maintain ownership of key industrial enterprises, zero punishment.
Allies allowed this to happen specifically, US, UK Swiss and Sweden with some further places like Argentina and Egypt.
Reddit mods esp in EU focused subs will also ban these discussions, it is not just lemmy issue.
And where have you been silenced om this topic? Or someone else if that’s the case.
sunzu2
“and constantly accusing an entire political party of being “regime whores””
you are misrepresenting my thesis but banning me… 1 month ago WrenFeathers
You admitted to shitposting. That’s why you’re banned. PoliticalMemes isn’t a shitpost community.
And nothing was misrepresented. If you misspoke, the onus is on you to correct it. But you leaned into it- multiple times. 1 month ago sunzu2
“You admitted to shitposting. That’s why you’re banned.” thats not why but that’s ok. i clearly state on multiple occasion within the thread that both sides are regime whores. you are misrepresenting my position… 1 month ago WrenFeathers
That is absolutely why you’re banned. I’m the one that banned you. I get to qualify it- you don’t.
Take a time out and chill. 1 month ago sunzu2
https://thebrainbin.org/m/politicalmemes@lemmy.world/t/334461/What-Undecided-Voters-Look-Like-To-Everyone-Else-Dropout/comment/3373455#entry-comment-3373455 1 month ago WrenFeathers
You’re free to appeal if you think his was unfair. But as of now- it stays.
And if you think I’m being biased, check the mod logs. I remove uncivil comments/posts only. Regardless of political bias. And if you knew how much of your stuff was reported that I/we left as is because it didn’t break rules, maybe you’d see things more evenly.
Come back in a few days and follow the rules. 1 month ago sunzu2
I am fine with a ban, but i don’t like having my core position being misrepresented by a mod after a ban. the regime whore term is not specific for either party, it covers both sides. your comment implies that I am siding with one party and i can’t correct the record. it aint right.
My staff is reported because people don’t like the thesis and the delivery style, which is the entire point of the exercise here. People won’t like their opinions challenged, especially from unexpected vector. I don’t think that it violates actual rules with few exceptions (back and forth with people who do name calling). People are reporting me to censor the content so that’s something to consider from a mod perspective.
Finally, shitposter is term dating back over 20 years, people regularly admit being shitposter. I have extensive posting history on this handle. I did not post in bad faith as suggested above. This is my thesis but I do keep it fun when off topic.
Either way, appreciate the time and the response. 1 month ago WrenFeathers
Trust me, I know why people report.
Both sides if this debate report things they don’t like. And i HATE having to say “both sides.”
You broke the rules.
I don’t enjoy removing comments, let alone users from this community. But the rules are there for a reason.
And yes… There are grey areas to them which in this, I try and exercise leniency.
If it helps- in the future, prefix your comment with things like “I think,” or “it seem to me that” so that it is phrased as opinion and not fact.
“It seems to be that liberals are ‘regime whores’”
I may totally disagree, but I cannot remove an opinion so long as it remains civil. 1 month ago sunzu2
So still no correction to the commemt misrepresenting my position? 1 month ago WrenFeathers
I removed your comments based on what you said, not what you intended to say.
Case closed. 1 month ago
Could you screenshot stuff because this was just illegible.
Discussing an actual legitimate part of the law is a no no on lemmy.world
Only when it might give ordinary Americans the ability to prevent corps from taking revenge on someone who stood up to them. That’s not very centrist.
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning “jury nullification” and “financially supporting” this has been changed now until a larger announcement is made
many admins and moderators at .world including myself are not american, i pray that the others who are angry at me and hope they consider there are more countries with laws that are different from them
you may disagree with my faith but i consider myself fair in my removal in this violation
when trump was shot i removed comments celebrating this violence when sinwar was killed i removed comments celebrating this violence so when this person is murdered i remove comments celebrating this violence
when users report these comments and those above me ask me to act on this topic i continue as i have for months in these communities
there was no good-faith and productive discussion to be had when you celebrate murder
how can you call others a tankie when you dance on graves as they do?
i have sympathy for the americans who are wronged by the man murdered but instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning “jury nullification”
Jury nullification is not illegal in the United States, the jurisdiction this would be tried in.
i have sympathy for the americans who are wronged by the man murdered but instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
Oh hey, I started reading the Bible from the beginning and in the first chapter the main character convinced a father to kill his own son then killed almost everyone on earth because he didn’t like them. Are those the lessons I’m supposed to learn?
Edit: I skipped ahead a bit to the part where the punishment for having sex with someone who isn’t your wife is to be stoned to death. Am I get warmer yet?
What about the part where one of the characters went around and cut off 200 penises from an ethno group he didn’t like because the father of the girl he wanted to marry said 100 and he wanted to impress him?
“We are not American but we denounce all violence (except if it is done against American adversaries) and only allow posts from American favored media sources”
Did the CIA promise Lemmy.World admins green cards?
Bold to think they aren’t already American citizens lolol
They keep claiming all these things against the TOS yet you can read that and none of it’s in there. I don’t know what it is about these mods but they sure seem to be trying to push their own agenda.
I was questioning a certain mod why they banned someone for TOS violations but left up the offending comments and they were confused why anyone would question them about it.
Like if something is that bad you ban and remove it but they thought it was better to use as an example.
Simply put they just use it as their go to excuse.
Remember how the !world@lemmy.world mods kept pushing for months the propaganda bot from a pro-Zionist and very rightwing (so much so that their definition of a Rightwing news media was pretty much only the Far-Right ones) organisation trying to tell everybody which news to trust and which to not trust?
Also, curiously and back some months ago when I was making anti-Zionist posts in my Lemmy.world account, all of a sudden I started getting e-mails on the account I used to register on Lemmy.world from an Israeli organisation doing “Education about Israel” courses and they knew not just my e-mail but also the country I lived in (the e-mails were in my native language) even though I didn’t share my email on any posts.
Still love the mods of news banned a bunch of people that were raising criticism of the shitty bot, and then the admins just ignoring it when asked about it.
_we’re looking into it _
Only God may judge us? Which God exactly, you giant fucking DIPSHIT?
I’m as much of a god as anything or anyone else, and I hereby give you all permission to judge anyone you want for any reason. This applies both going forward in perpetuity, and retroactively until the Big Bang.
Give it a day or two for the LW admins to respond. Remember, they’re not doing this as a full time job. This only happened today, and I would expect change on the instance to take more than one day.
Also most of the mods on LW only have one big community. Different communities will have different standards.
What are you talking about? The post is about a LW admin declaring that discussing jury nullification is grounds for banning. Did you mean to reply to something else?
Edit: Not admin, worldnews mod
They’re not an admin, they’re a community mod and they’re talking out of their ass.
Right. I just realised that. So either they know something or they’re making false claims and the admins need to remove him.
Willing to bet it’s the ladder, this would be outlandish if true and would be kind of bad for lemmy.world.
Look, fuck dotworld. Every fucking day there are posts on there crying about leftist instances, and urging everyone to defederate from .ml and hexbear. Meanwhile this is their moderation style: suppressing wildly popular opinion that threatens the liberal/capitalist status quo. They’re already too big. Don’t let them monopolize Lemmy like they want. Join almost any other instance.
Meanwhile this is their moderation style: suppressing wildly popular opinion that threatens the
liberal/capitalisttankie/dictatorial communist status quo.This is dotML. Dotworld isn’t great with their style of moderation, but ML is very much the same but for different boot they’re licking.
Did I tell people to join .ml or hexbear?
No. It looks like you told people to “join almost any other instance.” That’s a strange reaction from Crabby. I guess they’re just annoyed.
Lol yeah didn’t notice the username.
Fuuuuuck I have to change instances again…
Anybody got a recommendation?
Other than occasional downtime from expired certs been loving
sfd.orglemmy.sdf.orgOr ttrpg.network
Don’t you mean https://lemmy.sdf.org/ ?
Yes thank you
Can you migrate or gotta redo settings etc all over again?
Lemmy has an export / import function now
That’ll be pretty useless if most of their communities are lemmy.world communities, it’s not a good idea to divorce an instance but still participate and be dependent on their communities, unless you’re willing to obfuscate your activity with alts that aren’t connected to you. Otherwise they’ll just ban you from those communities anyway.
Also be warned, it doesn’t take your post history, or even saved posts with you, if you want saved posts you have to bring them manually, and you can’t take post history with you at all.
Also be warned, it doesn’t take your post history, or even saved posts with you, if you want saved posts you have to bring them manually, and you can’t take post history with you at all
Probably not a big deal for the majority of people. Just link your old profile in your bio if you want to keep your “reputation”
Saved posts will probably be a bigger deal since people saved them for a reason.
Also I did mention bringing history with you because spiteful admins can wash your history away when you can’t bring it with you. If you could claim and reassigned ownership of the federated posts and comments they’d only be able to wash it away from the communities they moderate.
Saved posts will probably be a bigger deal since people saved them for a reason.
How many saved posts do people have on average?
I’m not sure, I know that on this account I have over 100. On Lemmy.world I probably have way more. I have 40 on pawb.social. I have a lot here though. Much less on the others since I use those accounts less but I still have a handful on all the others.
.world mods are all fuckwits.
* admins, in this case.
Edit: Not admins, my bad.
*Not an admin, the user is a mod. Look at their account on their home instance and you’ll see they aren’t an admin.
Image of their account page
Calling out bad behavior from mods is good but please don’t spread misinformation, intentionally or not. As it hurts the credibility of the claims.
Yes, I’ve edited all my posts and comments once I realised my error
Ah that’s good, glad the information has been corrected. I’d also recommend editing the post title to clarify that it’s a mod talking out of their ass, as opposed to something officially true.
lemmy.dbzer0.com is supposedly run by an anarchist, just saying…
Also we got booty (no not that booty, treasure!) !piracy!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Sail the High Seas!
wtf
Jury nullification is legal.
You need to lie to the judge under oath to do it. There simply aren’t consequences, but it is very much illegal.
You do not have to lie to the judge. There is no lying to the judge. If the jury decides to ignore evidence and nullify, the judge knows exactly why, and there’s nothing they can do about it.
Wrong. They try to filter out people who know about jury nullification, but the act itself is not illegal, as you do not have to have the knowledge to accidentally do it anyway.
Just to be clear, one of the standard questions to ask a potential jury is “you must be able to render a verdict solely on the evidence presented at the trial and in the context of the law as I will give it to you in my instructions, disregarding any other ideas, notions, or beliefs about the law. Are you able to do this?”
If you know about jury nullification, with the intent of using it, then you need to lie under oath to get past this question.
The question was taken from the New Mexico US courts
Are you able to do this?
Ahead of time, I could answer truthfully that I am able. I don’t have to say “but when the time comes, I may choose not to for any reason”
It’s a TOS violation to discuss one of the very real and legitimate responsibilities you have as a juror?
Like, nullification is a thing because it’s very much the absolute very very last defense against bullshit laws being used against people by a corrupt judicial system.
It’s a moral imperative and something anyone sitting on a jury should understand and be willing to use.
What an absurd take, especially since it sounds like it’s all the .world admins having it.
Lemmy.world is a centrist instance. Liberals don’t like the idea that people can do something that the donor class can’t prevent.
It’s likely not actually a TOS violation, that person commenting is almost certainly talking out of their ass, likely to try and push their own agenda and make people comply.
theres no faster way to get kicked out of the selection process than mentioning it.
if you want out of jury duty, mention jury nullification and you are out of there.
… and in jail for contempt of court.
If all one had to do was utter ‘JN’ to get out of JD for free nobody even slightly inconvenienced would ever serve.
In reality, they dance around the fact. Ask you questions designed to get you to admit you have no ‘valid’ reason to nullify if you did, at which point you are either guilty of lying under oath or contempt of court.
You have to be firm in your convictions and hold your ground with a valid justification if you are going to try using nullification awareness to weasel out of jury duty because the judge will press, and press until they either think you’re a true believer of a valid reason, or are just trying to shirk your duty.
Link me even one case of that happening.
If they think you even might support nullification, they don’t want you on the jury. They wouldn’t risk that you’re joking or trying to get out of serving.
Here’s a particularly outrageous example. If you watch the entire video he goes on to describe a few more examples where the entire jury must be aware of what JN is but are still acting as jurors.
Those are cases of attempting to encourage specific juries to nullify. You’re not gonna be held in contempt for revealing you support jury nullification during selection.
held in contempt for revealing you support jury nullification during selection.
Yes, you will. If you flat out say “I support Jury Nullification” during voir dire the judge will consider it flagrant contempt for the courts and deal with you accordingly.
What will actually happen is you will be asked a vague question that skirts the issue like “do you have any beliefs which would render you unable to convict or acquit based on the evidence alone?”. If you answer in the affirmative an explanation will be demanded at which point what will your answer be? “I support jury nullification”, same deal. If you have an actual belief that gets in the way like say you abhor the death penalty they will say things like ‘case is regarding a traffic ticket, your concerns do not apply. any other reasons?’. Their goal being to show that any of your reasons either do not apply, or are insufficient in the judge’s eyes for you not to do your duty. At that point you’d still be a juror and if you do nullify for whatever reason there’s nothing they can do afaik.
You’re dreaming if you think you wouldn’t be punished for praising jury nullification in front of a judge and an entire slew of potential jurors during voir dire, when someone was handing out fliers outside the court building was convicted despite no court being in session, no actual juror receiving the pamphlet, and it held on appeals.
TBH you want evidence, the evidence is the court system still functioning because if what you said was true it would collapse in on itself.
This is pure bullshit. And that’s not just my opinion, Cornell Law School explains jury nullification on their website, and lists multiple examples of it. Juries in the United States are protected, and you cannot be held responsible for refusing to convict. You will not be punished for it, and if you are, then your rights have been violated and you have a case to sue the government.
Yes, you will. If you flat out say “I support Jury Nullification” during voir dire the judge will consider it flagrant contempt for the courts and deal with you accordingly.
Source? Cause this is some wild shit.
