• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    Theres about 0% chance of this happening without something totally catastrophic being bundled alongside it, like allowing creditors to come into debtors homes and beat them with sticks.

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    LOL, Bernie knows that’s never going to happen. He’s just reminding the world of an empty promise that trump made, and openly offering his help so that Trump can’t say the Democrats blocked him. He’ll still say it, but there will be readily available evidence to the contrary, not that that’s ever mattered before.

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      Trump Admin: Cap interest rates at 10%, but also we repeal the thirteenth amendment.

      Democrats: No! What is wrong with you?!

      Republicans: DEMONRATS WON’T WORK WITH US TO CAP INTEREST RATES AND ALSO THEY DRINK SMOOTHIES MADE OF BABIES!

      Republican Voting Base: [Thunderous applause. 90% voter turnout. 99% voter loyalty.]

      Everyone Else: I dunno, both parties seem the same. [Sub-50% voter turnout. Interfactional backstabbing intensifies.]

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    I know Bernie is being polite and playing politics, but let’s be honest: Trump keeping this promise is about as likely as Hell freezing over.

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      It’s not polite, it’s calling him out. Trump will say/lie about anything. At one point Trump said exactly this. He didn’t mean it, he just said some shit.

      Bernie is repeating his own words because occasionally Trump says something good without any intent to follow up.

      So Bernie is taking him at his word. He knows Trump will never do it, but if he can call the hypocrite out and trick him into agreeing, why not?

      To want to talk about 4D Chess? There it is.

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    What that would actually mean is a complete lock-out on credit cards for the poor.

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      I don’t see that as a real problem. Because as it is now, credit cards are something poor people should avoid at all costs.

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        No, it’s a thing idiots should avoid at all costs.

        A card with a 2% reward across the board(Fidelity for instance) can be used as a proxy for your debit card week to week.

        It builds my credit, gives me a group of attack dogs to sic on anyone who rips me off, and gives me a cushion if I ever need it. If you never exceed your expenses and never reach beyond your means, it’s no different in consequence than paying with anything else, with a little added bonus credit and reward.

        It’s people and their lack of self control that ruin credit cards.

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      Considering how many Americans have crippling credit card debt, especially poor people, would that be worse? I’m sure they’d still offer those credit builder cards with low limits that you have to deposit collateral for the limit.

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        I’d expect a lot more use of buy now pay later schemes like Klarna.

        It’s similar to a credit card, but prevents build up of crippling debt.

        I personally use my credit card and pay in full each month, not because I need the credit, but because in the UK you get the benefit of Section 75 protection on purchases. I’ve used that a few times when companies have gone bust. If I’d paid on debit card I’d have been screwed.

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          Buy now, pay later does not prevent crippling debt. It makes it easy to buy without thinking or realising the actual cost. It makes is easy to stack up invoices that you in the end can’t afford.

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        Don’t Americans have a thing called Credit Score. If you are not paying off debt you don’t build up a score and good luck getting a mortgage without one.

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          It’s a combination of factors. Having debt itself isn’t as important as payment history, age of accounts, etc. Credit card debt is probably the opposite of helpful; paying off a card every month in full for a long time is much more useful.

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      Actually asking, not rhetorical: if poor people are already getting charged based on what they can afford, would this policy exert a downward force on prices?

      So way less financing options, slightly more buying outright?

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        Problem is the assumption that prices would go down if some people cannot afford it.

        Whats happening instead is people going hungry and homeless.

        The reason for this is that Supply:Demand Equilibrium is further up in price range where fewer sales at higher value yields the maximum profit.

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      Sure, if we presuppose that credit cards exist as a way for a middleman company to make a huge profit and pay their CEO tens of millions of dollars annually. If we instead consider them a regulatable utility, the necessary rates for viable operation go pretty far down. The business model of “convenience is free or even costs less than cash for those who already have plenty, and this convenience is funded by the destitute who are being held down by the exact same people” is also suspect to begin with, and I’d rather DiSrUpT tHe EcOnOmY than remain complicit, which I am

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    Trump promises require GOP to back him up to ever get close to being implemented. GOP have always voted against bank regulation/extortion limiting. People earning tips are not big GOP donors, so fuck them. Taxes on SS are only paid by richest SS earners, but GOP have been going around on trying to get overall SS cuts.

    Any promise not Project 2025 is politician lip moving meant to bring Project 2025.

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      Since trump’s party controls the entire gov right now he is going to be pissed when he learns he can’t blame his failures on the dems for most of the country.

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        He absolutely still can, his voting bloc is full of low information voters that just want validation for the racist/misogynistic hate they feel

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        Key dem senators were bribed to sabotage Biden’s climate and other agendas. Confirmations for any anti pharma/war cabinet picks are certainly bribable. Gaetz is no problem, even if fuss made, though. There is some hope that the stupidity of destroying EVs and IRA gets blocked. Spending $1T to deport millions is going to have lobbyists intervene too.

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    Strange how every time somebody takes an idea Republicans spouted that would actually help people, and decide to run with it, conservatives suddenly aren’t so keen on the idea anymore.

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    Imagine that, scooping up cold butter on a spatula and slapping it indiscriminately on your partner’s exposed butt.

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    Somehow I don’t think Mr “Pro-Business” will hamper banks’ efforts to fleece us.

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    Might be my background - lived half my life in a country where credit cards are interest-free for religious purposes - but 10% still seems insane.

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      Compare that to the ~30% I’ve seen, that’s sadly an amazing shift (lol, which won’t ever happen with the fascist caucus), but I commend Bernie for trying.

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      I’d never heard of this, how do the banks make any money on the card, annual fees or something?

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          That’s a good point - there are transaction fees that could support the business. And we even inflate those with cash back and other rewards

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          Which is an insane return by itself if people use their cards for everything, as they do in the US.

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          No, we had a flat annual fee for usage. There was a fee for withdrawing cash but no making purchases.

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        Processing or transaction fees. Anytime you use your card for a purchase the bank gets a cut of that. This fee can range from .1% to 4%, depending on the credit card processor.

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    Why doesn’t Bernie understand Trump was just joking when he said that?!

    Talk about owning the libs!

    Bernie can’t even get a joke!

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    Is Burnie trying to duck season rabbit season Trump? I’m actually curious to see if this works

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      If Dems all act eager to act on Trump’s actually good promises (untaxed tips for instance), it’ll bite the GOP that much more when he backs out of those promises

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        I hope so, but they’ll just blame the Dems anyway and they core voters will just believe it.