• ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    What have they got to lose?

    Gay marriage, contraception, porn, legal divorce? Just off the top of my head.

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      Porn isn’t going anywhere. LoL

      Divorce either.

      Gay marriage? It’s already dangerous to just come out, let alone get married.

      And contraception? They’ren already losing that one too in many states thanks to local governments anyway.

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        Porn isn’t going anywhere. LoL

        Give Project 2025 a read. Wild things in there.

        Gay marriage? It’s already dangerous to just come out, let alone get married.

        Thanks to who?

        And contraception? They’ren already losing that one too in many states thanks to local governments anyway.

        Literally a direct cause of the last Trump administration.

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        “divorce either”

        Just like abortion, right? You realize it hasn’t been that long that you had to prove one party was at fault in order to be allowed to divorce? You hate each other? Denied!

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          You have to get married to get divorced, and marriage is simply not on the table for most people. It’s expensive and pointless. Marriage rates have been dropping for a couple of decades. It’s just not important since we completely removed the original purpose… Expanding the economic success of both families.

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            So you don’t mind if the rights of a minority are infringed upon? You realize it’s a way to control women? Marriage doesn’t need to be expensive either and a man wanting to put a ball and chain on a woman will force her to get married and she’ll be legally stuck with him for the rest of his life if no fault divorce is made illegal again. What about the 62 million married couples that already exist?

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        https://www.npr.org/2024/07/07/nx-s1-5026948/conservatives-in-red-states-turn-their-attention-to-ending-no-fault-divorce-laws

        https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna161562

        There’s a massive difference between the social stigma attached to coming out, and the revocation of the legal rights associated with marriage.
        It’s not even that long ago that people couldn’t visit their life partner in the hospital following an accident, because they weren’t married.

        Limited access to certain types of contraception in certain areas is a very different beast than overturning the case that ruled that contraception isn’t criminally indecent.

        If you don’t know how far civil rights have come even in the past 20 years, or how much further back than that they openly want to push things back, I don’t think you’re paying attention.
        Abortion had just as much legal protection as porn or gay marriage, and it “wasn’t going anywhere” until it was suddenly gone.

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          Oh I am paying attention. I know that’s at stake. I was born in the early 80’s so I’ve seen the progress. And I’ve seen the conservatives chipping away at it for the past 20 years. Both in the US and Canada. (I’m Canadian)

          I’ve been stuck with the massive democratic power of the boomer masses my whole adult life and saw them vote in these conservative and neo liberal parties that have completely destroyed whatever social safety net that they benefited from and any freedom and equality only for them to have more money to put in their retirement funds.

          I was hoping the Gen Zs would join our ranks, but social media, corporate lies, toxic ideologies meant to address their insecurities, and now AI have fucked up their perspective.

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        Man it’s like you’ve never even met any of the dumb crackheads that are cucking for these evangelicals