Democrats are committed to losing and are turning towards āwe gotta be more racist and transphobicā.
Seth Moulton also turning on trans people and outright declaring himself transphobic after prior tweets recognising things like Trans Day of Remembrance.
https://x.com/SLCLunk/status/1854597079773200550
āProgressive era has to endā from Elise Jordan. When was there ever one?
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Nope. That will definitely not work, like at all. The Democrats canāt simply debate bro their way out of this.
Maybe Obama destroyed Trump for you, but not for the voters who voted for Trump, or else they wouldnāt have voted for him.
If fact, the Democratic party is a joke to many petit bourgeois. And also for many working class people, because it abandoned them about 40 years ago in favor of neoliberalism, and has only further abandoned them since[1].
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This sounds like Clinton and her deplorables. You know what that line of reasoning wrought last time? Trumpās first term. You are repeating the Demsā mistakes and expecting different results.
This kind of thinking sounds like The West Wing, which I maintain has been the most corrosive media in a generation. It simultaneously made people very dumb and very smugly sure that theyāre smart and right and morally correct. A deprogramming podcast: The West Wing Thing
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Yeahā¦ I donāt think you understand how politics works or how power works or who is really in power[1][2] or how the media & propaganda work. Your arguments are in the world of pure idealism. Real politics scarcely happens in the marketplace of ideas.
I donāt know why you think Iām suggesting anything of the sort.
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Iām not talking to Trump supporters, Iām talking to you. But youāre so dense and smugly sure of your brilliance that youāre not going to listen, so Iāll stop now.
Lmao, this was my first thought after reading this thread
why are dems trying to appeal to trump supporters?? they will never ever vote for you! thatās the entire point! this campaign failed because they tried to appeal to trump voters and ate shit!! holy fuck, maybe they should focus on appealing to their voter base, the people who might actually vote for them. jesus christ lmao democrats are fucking doomed.
Love.
Unrequited love.
TBF, a not an insignificant number of them had previously been Sanders supporters. But if the DNC isnāt going to allow a Sanders into the general election, that is moot.
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It really sucks that youāre right but this is a big part of the reality of modern elections. What people donāt seem to get about what youāre saying is that this strategy is not intended to make Republicans vote for Democrats, itās intended to make them stay home. Their perception of Trump is that heās a strongman. It doesnāt matter that such a description is hilariously off base. It matters that they believe it. Stand up there and call him a pussy with small hands who canāt swing a golf club to save his life and watch him throw a toddler fit while the country looks on. This has the added benefit of giving idiotic āundecidedsā the soundbites they clearly want which just might convince some of them to vote for you.
Is it stupid? Absolutely. Would it work? I honestly think it would.
That and be more of an outright Nazi than him. You forget that itās not just about charisma, itās about creating a white christian ethnostate. If you can out-Trump Trump, which inherently means amplifying Fascist rhetoric in a folksy charm, but also providing an entertainingly scathing critique of everything not white and rich, then yeah, youāll win. But otherwise the right will always vote for the biggest Nazi in the room.
Failure to recognize this is a failure to recognize how the right thinks. Fascism isnāt the outlier in the American right, it is the norm. They just donāt like calling it Fascism, they prefer traditional christian values.
Obama would win against Trump so drop the āoutnazi the naziā shit right now.
Dude you canāt just appeal to trump voters and hope to win. It hasnāt worked, it canāt work, it wonāt work. You have to appeal to progressives and people who do not want money in politics. And I donāt believe the democrats will ever be willing to do that.
Democrats would rather lose than move one Planck length to the left.
Yes. And I will never forgive them for that.