Thats my issue with politics. Every issue is bait, and everybody plays with the issues.
Meanwhile, the outcomes affect real people.
And not just THIS issue. This is every issue. It’s all just a series of “how can I frame this to benefit me…”
And that’s all politics has ever been. Even back in the slavery days. People praise Lincoln for ending slavery. People like to remember him as being snti-slavery. He wasn’t. He was trying to work both sides, and it happened to benefit him to end slavery.
Just the same today with domens health/abortions, the economy, education, and any other big issue you can think of. If it benefits a politician to take a side, they will. The right thing to do would be to allow Ukraine to use our best weapons, and strike deep within russia. But that doesn’t benefit America to end the war. Instead, it benefits America to drain russia for generations of all military, vehicles, equipment, and ability to recover. It benefits America to send a message to China to not fuck around.
What benefits America and what is the right thing to do are rarely the same.
People like to remember him as being snti-slavery. He wasn’t. He was trying to work both sides, and it happened to benefit him to end slavery.
Lincoln frequently expressed his moral opposition to slavery in public and private. “I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong,” he stated. “I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel.”
You’re lying about his positions to fit your complaint.
The right thing to do would be to allow Ukraine to use our best weapons, and strike deep within russia. But that doesn’t benefit America to end the war. Instead, it benefits America to drain russia for generations of all military, vehicles, equipment, and ability to recover. It benefits America to send a message to China to not fuck around.
While those are all ancillary benefits to NATO and their allies, a massive reason to not give Ukraine longer ranged weapons is to not catastrophically destabilize the country with the largest nuclear weapon stockpile on Earth. Furthermore, the United States has been giving Ukraine more “deep-strike” capable weapons systems very recently, since the Ukrainian invasion of the Kursk oblast.
There are plenty more reasons to withhold “carte blanche” access to more modern weapons platforms, but it’s irrelevant to what’s wrong with what you typed.
The way you frame things is what pisses me off about politics the most.
A few simple Google searches and some light reading prove your assertions as “examples” to your point wrong, but you spout drivel like this like it’s obvious. And then nuance, detail, understanding, veracity, etc. are further trampled by your obviously uneducated fan-fiction(s) because it makes you feel good to virtue-signal on the internet.
The fight will never be over. Thats the problem. It’s not meant to ever end. It’s only meant to give us the illusion of choice so we can put power in someones hands.
The fight for freedom will never be over— because it is constantly redefined. It’s a goal, not a destination, and also how much we are enriched by the journey. Through all that we achieve, we strive for more. And through the achievement, we grow stronger, more. Greater.
They took the bait
Eeexcellent…
Thats my issue with politics. Every issue is bait, and everybody plays with the issues.
Meanwhile, the outcomes affect real people.
And not just THIS issue. This is every issue. It’s all just a series of “how can I frame this to benefit me…”
And that’s all politics has ever been. Even back in the slavery days. People praise Lincoln for ending slavery. People like to remember him as being snti-slavery. He wasn’t. He was trying to work both sides, and it happened to benefit him to end slavery.
Just the same today with domens health/abortions, the economy, education, and any other big issue you can think of. If it benefits a politician to take a side, they will. The right thing to do would be to allow Ukraine to use our best weapons, and strike deep within russia. But that doesn’t benefit America to end the war. Instead, it benefits America to drain russia for generations of all military, vehicles, equipment, and ability to recover. It benefits America to send a message to China to not fuck around.
What benefits America and what is the right thing to do are rarely the same.
Your opinions don’t constitute reality.
Lincoln frequently expressed his moral opposition to slavery in public and private. “I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong,” he stated. “I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel.”
This Wikipedia article has many direct quotes from him about his thoughts on the morality of slavery.
You’re lying about his positions to fit your complaint.
While those are all ancillary benefits to NATO and their allies, a massive reason to not give Ukraine longer ranged weapons is to not catastrophically destabilize the country with the largest nuclear weapon stockpile on Earth. Furthermore, the United States has been giving Ukraine more “deep-strike” capable weapons systems very recently, since the Ukrainian invasion of the Kursk oblast.
There are plenty more reasons to withhold “carte blanche” access to more modern weapons platforms, but it’s irrelevant to what’s wrong with what you typed.
The way you frame things is what pisses me off about politics the most.
A few simple Google searches and some light reading prove your assertions as “examples” to your point wrong, but you spout drivel like this like it’s obvious. And then nuance, detail, understanding, veracity, etc. are further trampled by your obviously uneducated fan-fiction(s) because it makes you feel good to virtue-signal on the internet.
Jesus. That man had a family!
And they’re ashamed that he types up crap like what he posted.
Ok, so, I can relate to your frustration, but to say that it’s the same it’s always been is both foolish and lacks important nuance.
Sure, classism has always been classism, but the way it operates (and, thus, the means to defeat it) constantly change. One must be nimble. Adroit.
The fight is far from over, and we must all remain adaptable.
The fight will never be over. Thats the problem. It’s not meant to ever end. It’s only meant to give us the illusion of choice so we can put power in someones hands.
The fight for freedom will never be over— because it is constantly redefined. It’s a goal, not a destination, and also how much we are enriched by the journey. Through all that we achieve, we strive for more. And through the achievement, we grow stronger, more. Greater.
So the work continues…
So what is your solution, just give up?