Don’t get me wrong, there are problems with it, both in the process that modern AI uses as well as the sources that it draws from, however, as of right now ai is just a tool like auto-tune or photoshop.

Even though it will change the media formats that it is attached to, it will not supplant them within the next 5 to 10 years, it will simply transform them.

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    As someone who daily drives ChatGPT for a lot of stuff, I agree. I heard someone put it this way “AI is perfect for stuff that is hard to find but easy to verify”.

    The other day I took a photo of my liquor cabinet and told it to make a cocktail recipe with ingredients on hand. Or if I encounter an error on my PC I’ll just describe the problem. Or for movie recommendations when I have a very specific set of conditions. Or trying to remember a show from my childhood with only a vague set of memories. The list goes on.

    Particularly for anything coding. If I’m trying to learn something I always learn best when I can just see an example of the thing in action as documentation is not always great. Or if I’m doing data manipulation and I have the input and output and just need the function to convert one to the other. I recently saved a whole afternoon of effort with that one. Or spec tests I’ll just drop my whole code file in and ask it for full coverage.

    These are all things that traditional search engines are poor or incapable of. I’d have a hard time going back if they just turned all this off tomorrow.

    I think there’s a lack of education around how to use AI which is actually a problem. Like you shouldn’t be using it to identify if a mushroom is safe to eat. You shouldn’t be using really for anything food or health related for that matter. You should ask it for its sources when you are unsure of its answers.

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        Yep. The few times I used chatGPT was when I wanted to look something up but didn’t know what keywords to use and it was easier to just describe it. Or when I just didn’t feel like digging through links and just wanted an answer to a not so important question.

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    I just wish companies would stop cramming it into every product and making it the selling point for everything because they can’t think of anything else to do. It’s kind of fun to play with sometimes but it just isn’t useful at all for most tasks that companies seem to want us to use it for. I’m hoping it will be mostly forgotten outside of niche uses in a few years the same way we forgot about 3D TVs or NFTs as soon as the next new tech buzzword got invented

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    It will transform mediocre content into crap, and then it will regurgitate that crap into worse and worse crap. All of that at the expensive of untold Terawatt-hours of energy. AI will not take over the world, but it sure will help destroy it anyway.

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    I find it very funny that people have such arbitrary lines for AI. They’ll happily use autocomplete (an AI model trained on all manner of copyrighted works) but get very upset about chatgpt (an AI model trained on all manner of copyrighted works).

    I don’t think I’ve seen any artists complain about Photoshop’s AI tools when it came to erasing backgrounds or automatically filling in content, right up until the moment you could ask these models to autofill more than just part of an image.

    The copyright theft machines that are popular now should die, but stock image libraries have already been hard at work training AI models based on images they own. Those AIs are here to stay, there’s no theft involved.

    The biggest source of resistance is people fearing for their jobs. That said, a lot of them have never actually tried AI, so they don’t know the limitations and why I doubt serious businesses will replace any serious creative work for years to come. The only businesses that are replacing people by AI never really cared about the quality of their work in the first place, and that was going to happen with or without generative AI at some point.

    I’ve seen discussions awfully similar years ago about writers and artists debating whether or not computer aided work is “real” work. Society has transformed and photoshop and text editors are now considered tools, and I suspect that’ll also happen to AI.

    Right now, every serious AI company is funded by investors hoping their shares gain more and more value. That’s why chatgpt is free. I believe I remember reading that chatgpt 3 costs about 18 dollars per month per user, and that’s without the cost of training the next big model, or generating images, or producing music. At some point, the Gardner Hype Cycle will hit generative AI too, investments will dry up, and people will quickly lose interest once they need to pay for what they consume.

    The internet will decry “enshittification” and rage on companies for not giving them free shit anymore (see Reddit, YouTube, Discord, or any other free service really), and soon after these tools will become stuff mostly used by people with the kind of disposable income to throw a a couple dozen bucks a month at shitposting.

    The only disappointment I feel is how brazenly these AI companies can ignore copyright. For once I’m with the copyright maffia, and I hope a couple of lawsuits will force companies like openai to compensate the people whose content they use.

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      I agree with you almost 100% (except the copyright stuff), but,

      The biggest source of resistance is people fearing for their jobs. That said, a lot of them have never actually tried AI, so they don’t know the limitations and why I doubt serious businesses will replace any serious creative work for years to come

      …the business owners are just as ignorant. They are trying to replace people with AI, which will disrupt our lives while the CEOs refuse to admit their error and force us all to deal with it anyway. It’s a lot like outsourcing. It’s not as cheap and effective as businesses hoped, customers largely hate it, and we’re still doing it anyway.

      AI will be disruptive, but over the long term it will settle down to a small disruption. But the journey to get there might suck a bit.

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        But wev hit the part of the cycle where businesses who were stupid enough to believe it have already laid people off, and now we see them quietly starting to rehire. Seems like they still needed real people after all.

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      I agree with this take.

      AI will definitely make some white collar jobs way more productive, and thus change the nature of that work and reduce the number of people employed in those jobs.

      A good example is translation, where translators are now mostly reviewing translated texts instead of translating from scratch.

      This means the ability to read fast and take on the role of editor is what remains important in the remaining jobs for translators.

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    The problem is not the tech, as usual, it’s the people, who have been led to believe it’s AGI, who equate forming syntactically correct sentence with intelligence, and that that is enough to perform most white collar tasks.

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    There are ethical problems with how many of the models have been created and some of what they’re being used for

    But I generally agree, it’s pretty much the same thing we see with every technological innovation—something big changes and a load of things get disrupted, a group of people then get angry about said innovation, eventually those people dwindle and the innovation gets absorbed into the general public’s idea of what modern life consists of.

    I can’t think of any big innovation over the past few decades that hasn’t really followed a similar trajectory

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    To offer a counternarative, we don’t really know where AI will plateau, what will a 1 quadrillion parameter language model look like? And will it make my degree worthless by comparison lol?

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      Eve when when it does, we will still have hallucination. It will still be impossible to guarantee a correct answer. It’ll be more accurate, but those problems require heavy rethinking to models themselves, more accurate models will lessen it but it won’t go away

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      What is your degree to you? A means by which to qualify for a job? Or the lens through which you perceive and shape the world around you for the better?

      Because AI might some far-flung day make the former obsolete, but I don’t think ever the latter.

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      True but I can’t think of anything that capitalism hasn’t fucked up one way or another.

      I would be against making AI responsible for what capitalism has done.

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        Neither am I. I’m just pointing out that Capitalism has ruined ai like it ruined everything from the loom to the printing press to the internet

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    The dangers of AI should be determined by application, not capability. It’s a tool, like any other. You can use a hammer to build a house or cave in a skull.