• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
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    Same response as a “Swastika is just a sun symbol”

    A symbol can change meaning depending on history. Hammer and sickle is the symbol of oppression, suffering, dictatorship, imperialism and inequality, and it’s meaning is influenced by the actions of soviet union and china.

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      I didn’t say against that. The fascist powers have made their mark on the symbols that is true. As I said, it is what people associate.

      Do swastikas, hammers, stars etc. have positive meanings originally? Yes

      Have fascist dictatorships ussd those symbols with horrible atrocities in the past and even today? Yes

      Do people generally associate the latter? Yes

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        If people “generally associate the latter”, then the meaning of the symbol is changed.

        And the symbols no longer match the text they’re next to, as per my original comment.

        Can’t put “good luck” and drop a fucking swastika near it.

        You can, but that would get you arrested in many places in Europe, if you brandish it in public.

        Symbols carry history with them.

        Likewise, you could get a fine for brandishing hammer and sickle in many ex-soviet countries.

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          Symbols are just part of language, which evolves. Drop “fag” in a conversation in the uk and nobody bats an eye. Do it in the US, however…

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            Language, as many symbols, are context-dependent.

            If you called a gay person “a fag” in UK, absolutely no one would think you are calling them a cigarette.