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minus-squareboredtortoise@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8arrow-down3·edit-21 year agoI didn’t say against that. The fascist powers have made their mark on the symbols that is true. As I said, it is what people associate. Do swastikas, hammers, stars etc. have positive meanings originally? Yes Have fascist dictatorships ussd those symbols with horrible atrocities in the past and even today? Yes Do people generally associate the latter? Yes
minus-squarePrandom_returns@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down1·edit-21 year agoIf people “generally associate the latter”, then the meaning of the symbol is changed. And the symbols no longer match the text they’re next to, as per my original comment. Can’t put “good luck” and drop a fucking swastika near it. You can, but that would get you arrested in many places in Europe, if you brandish it in public. Symbols carry history with them. Likewise, you could get a fine for brandishing hammer and sickle in many ex-soviet countries.
minus-squareboredtortoise@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 year agoYes you are reiterating my point
minus-squareMJKee9@lemmy.onelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·1 year agoSymbols are just part of language, which evolves. Drop “fag” in a conversation in the uk and nobody bats an eye. Do it in the US, however…
minus-squarePrandom_returns@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 year agoLanguage, as many symbols, are context-dependent. If you called a gay person “a fag” in UK, absolutely no one would think you are calling them a cigarette.
I didn’t say against that. The fascist powers have made their mark on the symbols that is true. As I said, it is what people associate.
Do swastikas, hammers, stars etc. have positive meanings originally? Yes
Have fascist dictatorships ussd those symbols with horrible atrocities in the past and even today? Yes
Do people generally associate the latter? Yes
If people “generally associate the latter”, then the meaning of the symbol is changed.
And the symbols no longer match the text they’re next to, as per my original comment.
Can’t put “good luck” and drop a fucking swastika near it.
You can, but that would get you arrested in many places in Europe, if you brandish it in public.
Symbols carry history with them.
Likewise, you could get a fine for brandishing hammer and sickle in many ex-soviet countries.
Yes you are reiterating my point
Symbols are just part of language, which evolves. Drop “fag” in a conversation in the uk and nobody bats an eye. Do it in the US, however…
Language, as many symbols, are context-dependent.
If you called a gay person “a fag” in UK, absolutely no one would think you are calling them a cigarette.