Shop local. It’s just coffee. Don’t let the marketers tell you any different. For sweet creamy syrupy treats go to the ice cream store. Let’s not support the current system of the bigwig at the top who does very little and reaps most of the rewards.
Plus ordering there takes 3x longer than if I just made a coffee at home. They are not convenient unless you are traveling and have no access to a coffee maker.
But the local shops are often treating employees in ways that starbucks couldn’t possibly get away with. Source: ex who worked 14 hr shifts without weekends at 4 different places for a couple months each and came out at net negative.
There are some nice places though, where barista is the owner, and not just some stupid rich kid trying his hand at entrepreneurship.
Hell even my regular coffee shop does most of the
milkshakesfancy coffees that Starbucks does.I drink black coffee but they do look really good
Just for perspective here,
1000 * $15/hr = $15,000 / hr $96,000,000 / $15,000 / hour = 6,400 hours 6,400 hours / 40 hours / week = 160 weeks 160 weeks / 52.17857 weeks / year = 3.0663929655412174 yearsThey could afford to keep those employees on for another 3 Years with that amount.
Was it baristas that were laid off or office workers? Minimum wage for their corporate headquarters is a bit over $20/hour, and I’d suspect very few corporate employees are making only minimum wage.
That might be fair, but “laid off” has the sort of vibe to it that they didn’t get to choose between minimum wage and no job. Also, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 and the minimum wage in Washington state, where starbucks HQ is located is $16.66 so yeah definitely would have to rework the math based on location of the layoffs.
Agreed, just trying to point out that if the laid off employees were corporate, not retail, the $15/hr assumption is probably pretty low. If retail, those could be spread across the country, and $15/hr is probably pretty generous. Starbucks HQ is in the city of Seattle, which has an even higher minimum wage than the state (I think $20.76/hour now?).
Just some fun basic math for everyone…
$96 million / 1000 (workers) = $96,000
Want a worse number? Back in 2019, the price of commodity was at less than a $1. Starbucks, at the time made up 3% of the world’s production. They decided to give $20m to their farmers. Did it help? Well based on available financial data at the time, $20m was approximately single afternoon’s profit for the company. A SINGLE FUCKING AFTERNOON! https://sprudge.com/starbucks-would-prefer-you-dont-think-too-hard-about-that-20m-relief-fund-151839.html
Yes, but that’s irrelevant, just an accidental “post-” fact.
I think more relevant basic math is that he got a 2.6% bonus in terms of annual net income of the group.
The other 97.4% of labour just goes to shareholders (“landlords” of the financial system).
🍽️🤑
They could have paid every one of those employees nearly 6 figures instead. If the company is doing so badly that they feel they need to lay off a thousand people, they should not be handing out CEO bonuses, period.
Pretty sure a good portion of that was union busting, but that’s what we’re all about now.
This would not shock me in the slightest
Just so people are aware, Starbucks was caught buying from farms in Brazil multiple times that used slave labor. In Guatemala, along with Nestle, were caught buying from farm(s?) that used child labor.
EDIT: On top of this the company partnered with Conservation International to certify the farms met the company’s standards. The incident in Brazil saw CI trying to coverup the certification of that farm. Also CI is involved with arms dealing.
EDIT 2: Their retail products have the claim “100% Ethically Sourced”. That is a lie.
EDIT: I got the slogan wrong. It is “Committed to 100% Ethical Coffee Sourcing”.
Is this the same nestle slave labor case that went to the Supreme Court where nestle was successfully defended by former Obama solicitor Neal Katyal, or have they done this more than once?
Their retail products have the claim “100% Ethically Sourced”. That is a lie.
That all depends on which ethical code you’re referencing for your statement. I 100% believe that Starbucks sources according to their corporate ethical standards.
That’s not how words work. Don’t give them an inch, even as a joke.
I am unable to find a news report now, but I am certain I read one back in 2018 or 2019. I believe that Conservation International (an organization that helped develop the C.A.F.E. standard the company uses) was discovered covering up the certification of one of the farms in Brazil. As I remember reading, that a farm was at the time listed somewhere as being certified but after slave labor was discovered, CI uncertified the farm and attempted to claim it failed to meet the C.A.F.E. standards, thus never was awarded certification. They weren’t saying the certification was revoked; it never had any.
Do you have a source for that? I want to read more about it.
Here are three different reports regarding three different instances in Brazil. https://news.mongabay.com/2019/05/slave-labor-found-at-second-starbucks-certified-brazilian-coffee-farm/
https://news.mongabay.com/2018/09/slave-labor-found-at-starbucks-certified-brazil-coffee-plantation/
Here is one on the Guatemala incident. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/01/children-work-for-pittance-to-pick-coffee-beans-used-by-starbucks-and-nespresso
Awesome, thank you! Support local coffee shops, people!!!
yeah well anyways you see rich people do worse shit in front of you but yet we cannot change anything.
I worked there back in the early aughts. It actually was a cool retail job that paid reasonably well, a few dollars above minimum, and you got company stock, benefits, a free pound of coffee a week or box of tea, you were invited to company meetings, free drinks on shift, and we did all sorts of cool volunteer stuff, like with the food bank and habitat for humanity, and we would do coffee tastings at events, all sorts of things. It honestly was a fun job lots of the time. It’s so sad it’s turned into trash.
And it’s just mediocre coffee anyway. Roasted too dark just to keep a consistency in flavour between locations. Starbucks is a tax dodging lifestyle brand, they could start a clothing line and make the same money as they do selling coffee.
I volunteer at food shelters, and every now and then we get something we can’t really hand out, like unground coffee beans, so I ended up with a large bag of some Starbucks ultra dark roast of some kind. Had a leopard? on the bag. It smelled like boiled cat shit the instant I opened the bag, went in the compost bin immediately.
It really is. I like dark roast coffee, but I want flavor besides burnt.
So he literally stole their salaries. We can’t put up with millionair ceos anymore, it needs to be outlawed…
This is the same douche canoe that was the CEO of Chipotle and denied that the serving sizes were getting smaller and told people to just harass the worker making the food if they thought their serving size was to small.
Also the same guy trying to green wash plastic waste to be customer responsibility while commuting on a private jet from Southern California to Seattle.
Wait we had permission to do that? I thought I was just being a dick and telling them to “keep going”. What a relief, too bad I won’t go back.
I have never gone to a Starbucks and I never will. It’s not that hard to do that. They will never get even a penny out of me.
Fair warning, if you’re brewing coffee at home it’s still possible to buy Starbucks.
Most of the coffee at Costco is just rebranded Starbucks beans. A lot of dark roast coffee is secretly shitty Starbucks beans. If it smells like cigarettes at any point, you’ve probably got Starbucks coffee.
What if I told you, I don’t drink coffee.
THAT’S NOT TRUE
THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE
I have to give this another try.
Shouldn’t Costco warn people if they’re gonna sell burnt ass coffee beans though?
The only reason i would go to a Starbucks is to look at the people working and buying coffee there. Or to meet a cute person behind the counter, but i have never nore will i spend money in that
I already have dirty toilet water at home, I don’t see why I would pay Starbucks for it.
I don’t get it. We did not let kings and lords and counts keep their belongings. Why are we treating this scum any different?
In the time of kings and lords, it got way, way worse than this.
Not saying we should wait that long now, just saying.
Capitalism has no face to punch
It has many!
Target rich environment
That’s $96,000 per layed off worker
This is the guy that commutes from LA to Seattle on a private jet?
Yeah, same guy who fired nearly everyone at the Chipotle corporate office in Denver so he didn’t have to commute.
I’m just amazed no one goes Luigi when shit like that happens…
That’s…man I hope you’re wrong as that’s awful.
In 2018 Niccole laid off 400 at the Denver and New York locations so that HQ could be relocated to Newport Beach, where he lived at the time.
That was just the 400 FTEs. There were also lost of contractors that were affected as well! Most people don’t count them since they could have been let go for any reason.
Of course that wasn’t the official reason he gave. He hired a management consultant group to do a study of where all the top restaurant talent was in the country. Surprise, surprise, all the criteria they were given led them to narrow down the ideal location for the corporate headquarters to be right next to his house in Newport Beach.
How the fuck isn’t this stuff against business laws. How does this not break the fiduciary duty by self-dealing?
If what you’re saying is accurate then he’s a pro at creating parallel evidence.
Who am I kidding? Anyone who could bring a suit against the CEO probably doesn’t care.
wasteful hubristic meatballs
I’m theory, the board of directors is supposed to keep a CEO in check if they do something that is against the best interest of the shareholders. But the share price actually went up after he made this move.
Same reason share prices often go up when a company announces layoffs. The market isn’t always tied to how well a business is run.
OC to Seattle, but yes. The guy didn’t want to relocate from Newport Beach, so they bought him a jet to make his weekly “commute.”
Wasn’t it daily commute?
Iirc he flies up Monday, stays in the corporate penthouse during the week, then flies back Thursday or Friday. I’ll be honest I haven’t kept up on it as I really don’t care lol, I just remember the article from a few months or whatever back.
Makes more sense.
They are hired assasins. Like how they had special officers in WWII to commit the massacres
Don’t use Starbucks anymore. It’s American
Don’t use Charbucks anymore. It’s shit coffee
