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      To us non-Americans this is a really bad look. Did you really do everything you could to prevent this? Anyway, we’re all here and we all have to deal with it now. And really, you / we didn’t start this. The wheels were already set in motion before most of our time. Fascism is the inevitable outcome of capitalism. But we must be the ones to take action and set things right and build a better world.

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      You can’t admit you were wrong then or now. Sigh. But keep blaming them. Go on. Do it.

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      Do you have any evidence that “protest voters” had any meaningful impact on the elections? Because all evidence I’ve seen to date indicates the same voter and election fraud that’s put the GOP into power for decades is to blame (purging voter rolls, gerrymandering, arbitrary rejection of postal votes, disenfranchisement)

      If you don’t have evidence, have you ever considered the whole “Liberals blaming progressives for Trump” is part of the multi-decade PsyOps campaign to turn Liberals against the left, and continue shifting the overton window in normalizing fascism and corporate dictatorship?

      Maybe you should stop blaming the citizens who drew a line in the sand at genocide, and start blaming the political class that facilitated genocide, and continue to — perhaps rather surprisingly to liberals? — do absolutely nothing as a fascist dictatorship is implemented by their major corporate donors?

      Edit. I’m Australian. Thanks for proving my point though! The liberals of L/politics are identical to the liberals of R/politics, blinded by 80 years of corporate propaganda. Enjoy your fascist dictatorship and civil war!

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        Corporate propaganda?

        You might be surprised to learn there was more than one group at fault for this.

        The “I don’t like Biden” group should have known better. At least the magats have the excuse of being fully indoctrinated into a cult.

        That’s why the smaller group is called out. Because they knew better.

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        You’re getting downvoted and I’m soon to follow, but everything you said is reasonable and it’s almost never wrong to ask for evidence. I continue to be surprised at how tightly this community clings to the narrative that non-voters alone decided the election.

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            I haven’t seen any of the obvious “data science fueled” bot activity on Lemmy that I noticed on Reddit well over a decade ago. These communities are barely 1/10000th the size of Reddit right now, and still 1/100th the size of Reddit from a decade ago. Lemmy is simply not large enough to be worth the effort for PsyOps operations.

            The point of PsyOps is to run the campaigns on major “marketplaces of ideas” where they reach as many eyeballs as possible, and then the victims will repeat those narratoves elsewhere. The Cambridge Analytica CEO described it candidly in one of these. Threads on Lemmy are really just examples of the victims disseminating and perpetuating the propaganda. 99% of these comments are real people who genuinely believe the dumb shit they type.

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        1st, gerrymandering has nothing to do with the presidential election. It was obvious from your post you know very little about US elections.

        Next, there were 8.2 million fewer votes in 2024 than 2020. All of that loss was on the democratic side. Do you have evidence literally millions of voters were disenfranchised?

        Had those missing voters participated in good faith in 2024, Trump would not be president today.

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          So gerrymandering — which has facilitated the stealing of state elections and influenced state laws for decades, including around the handling of elections, purging of legitimate voters, disenfranchisement, etc — has no effect on federal elections whatsoever?

          Please continue to libsplain me on my knowledge of US politics… I’m sure you’re able to see the big picture and long term trends; not simply as confidently ignorant as 99% of D’s I’ve dealt with on social media for the last 2 decades. Keep up the stellar work, champ!

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            Lol, I say one thing and you answer another. Just like you did with the original post. THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IS THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, NOT FEDERAL ELECTIONS AS A WHOLE.

            If I say it slower, will that help you understand? Quit changing the fucking topic to try and make your point. And as I pointed out, please let me know when you find evidence 8.2M people tried to vote but couldn’t.

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              Who’s a big boy? You are! The fascists don’t stand a chance in the face of your unbridled intellect.

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    One of my close friends got her doctorate last year and recently hired as a scientist at EPA. She is improving methods of surveying urban soils using remote methods like ground penetrating radar, this helps to inform landowners/potential developers the true conditions of the soil they are building on. A shame the government doesn’t think that’s important anymore.

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      Sounds like woke DEI garbage. Everyone knows plants need Brawndo, the Thirst Mutilator. It’s got what plants crave.

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      The government is being run by the sorts of people who are doing the illegal dumping of hazardous waste that your EPA friend is trying to detect. Of course they don’t want her to do it; they don’t want to be held accountable!

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      A shame the government doesn’t think that’s important anymore.

      Not just unimportant, sand in the gears of their capitalist steamroller. The true conditions of anything must not interfere with the advertised conditions.

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      and also the funding on research in general is going out the window, making people trying to enter stem industries all that unlikely. when its already very hard to enter stems as it is.

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    I assume everything they will roll back is preventing companies from making more money.

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      “Yeah, we know this chemical causes hypercancer but if we can put it in our food, it’ll save 13¢/ton. Can ya give me a quick ol authorization there, guy?”

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        It’s not always about the cost saving. Sometimes it’s just because it gets more customers! Brominated flour, as an example.

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      Only select companies, and only In the short term. In the medium to long term it won’t help them.

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    I want to know if these people truly don’t believe in climate change or they know it’s so bad already that nothing can reverse it… and just don’t care.

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      I think you are overthinking it. They don’t even have climate change in their considerations, they are solely focused on the short term profits corporations can make from dismantling government regulations. That is how corporate cleptocracy works.

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      They think/know they’ll be rich enough to avoid the negative problems climate change will present, or they’ll be dead before it happens. They’re writing checks that the rest us will have to cash and laughing at us as we cheer for them to do so.

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      most countries have largely abandoned climate change, saw a video by SABIAN. even in research its hard to get funding if you mention climate change in your grants.

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    Geez I hope somebody doesn’t whip out some amendment or other and explain things to this man in a way he’ll be sure to comprehend.