• Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
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    MAGA has a hardon for cruelty. It’s about hurting people. They love the idea a rounding up non-white people, loading them into boxcars, and shipping them off to concentration camps. Everything that Trump has done so far is going make billionaires richer and regular Americans much poorer but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him.

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      I’m still not clear what the first “A” in maga is supposed to reference, seeing what’s happening these days. All I know is that it’s clearly not “America” or a reference to the US.

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        It’s the “G” that’s confusing you. “Great” in this context means “Christian White Nationalist.”

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        Aryans

        spits on ground

        Oops look at me I meant to spit on A’murica but I must have missed because I hit stolen indigenous land that was brutally and horrifically ripped from the hands of normal, good people who looked a bit different and lived in funny houses.

        …and then stolen again from immigrants who came here and were foolish or desperate enough to believe they would be included in the prosperity they spent extraordinary amounts of effort building…

        Third time is the charm?

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    for those of you who live in the US: there must surely be Republican voters being appalled by this too, right? Right?

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      They’ll claim they disagree with it and they don’t like Trump (except for -insert all his policies-) and then vote for him for a third term when he makes that legal. They need to pretend not to salivate about oppressing brown people when they are in polite company but that’s about it.

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      Some of the single-issue voters probably are, but not enough to actually vote against their single issue in the future.

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        That would require them to vote at all and Facebooks ain’t gonna scroll on the couch itself!

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      Our people are horrible, vindictive morons.

      And I don’t mean that from a place of emotional response to bad things, I am saying all of this dispassionately and analytically. The country has a large population of people who are objectively horrible, and vindication has become our primary focus for political action, and this is all because they’re generally morons.

      I can’t even really exaggerate or overplay this. The average American’s intelligence is worse than abysmal. I used to lead a team of data-workers at a large company, we had nice, casual morning meetings and talked about the latest events for about a half hour before work. I ended up in the position of people bringing me news stories and headlines to “translate” for them. I had to explain what planets are, I had to explain how gravity works, I had to explain how democracy works, I had to explain history and math and facts and ratios and words like “industrious” or “ambivalent” every day, over and over. AND I’M NOT A SMART PERSON. I have always prided myself on being informed, but at some point I became the one-eyed king in the land of the blind and I hate it.

      Everything here is going to get so, so much worse because I know how far down the barrel goes, and we haven’t even touched the bottom yet.

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      62% of the country supports deporting all illegals. Something that would be unbelievable a decade or two ago is now true for most Americans.

      A strong majority of the country supports putting millions of people in camps and keeping them there for years. Of course GOP is more fervently against it- the same GOP that idolizes Reagan who gave blanket citizenship to millions of illegals.

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    I’m sure imprisoning 30000 innocent people next to highly trained terrorists won’t come back to haunt the US.

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    So trump is going to build “housing” for 30.000 people, plus possibly hundreds of guards, who all need food, guards will need actual housing with maybefamilies who will need recreation too…

    Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they’re working hard on robbing the US coffers blind…

    Now make this for the 20 million or so, and you get to understand why the US will be bankrupt and over 4 years from now if this idiots continues this

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      Immigration detention centers have been around for a while now. Virtually all of them ran by private corporations. People rail against private prisons but they make up a tiny tiny minority of prisoners. Over 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned.

      So we’re going to throw millions of people into camps so that a few corporations can extract a ton of public taxpayer money. They’re also gonna stay there for years because it’s logistically impossible to move over 10 million people quickly.

      I didn’t think fascism would happen again my lifetime. But I guess here we are

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    Colombia, which eventually backed down, slammed the US’ treatment of migrants since Trump came to power.

    Why do they continue to repeat this narrative? Colombia wanted the migrants to be deported under humanly conditions. The US did that, now Colombia will take them. The threats of sanctions has nothing to do with it but it makes Trump look strong.

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    Concentration camp/torture camp.

    Lots of people fantasize about what they might do if they had the opportunity to act to stop what was happening in WWII Germany but here we are.

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    Oh I see what he is doing here, screw over 30.000 people, then send them over to their biggest enemies to learn a how to take revenge. America collapse soeedrun

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      Theoretically? Well Manhattan has a population density of about 73,000 people per square mile so it’s certainly possible to safely provide for 30,000 people in the space of Guantanamo Bay.

      In practice? There’s no way they’ll be doing anything like that, and the cruelty is the point.

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      No, they can’t. Guantanamo is a very harsh environment with very small capacity

      Edit: well, I guess if the plan is to starve them and put them in unliveable conditions where disease is rampant and they begin to die in droves…yes it would make sense then.

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        They looked at Auschwitz, realized that zirkon B was too expensive, and decided that Malaria and Dysentery can do it for cheaper.

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      The faster they move the more they can get done before their opponents can mobilise resistance.

      I would say that so far, there appears to be much less public resistance to Republican policies than in previous years. The Democrats appear to be at sea. The left’s working class base is split. Public institutions are too busy protecting their turf, making gestures at cooperating with the new world order rather than trying to resist.

      It feels like last time there was an assumption that Trump and MAGA politics a criminal dictator and fascist politics were a blip or aberration from the norm, now there’s an acceptance that they’re institutionalised.

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        Trump and MAGA politics

        Maybe the language we use to describe them is itself normalising and pacifying. Like calling a Nazi salute a “hand gesture.”

        I would suggest “a criminal dictator and fascist politics” as a substitute in your sentence to provoke an acceptable, proportionate reaction.

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      Rather unfortunately, the mass deportations was one of the most popular parts of Trump’s platform. Everybody knows mass deportation comes with concentration camps. It’s not that his voters are unaware of it, they actively love it!

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    My grandmother fought in the Dutch resistance, helped people who were Jewish escape, and was put in a camp. She died a few years ago. This is how that happened, too. And we’re all watching. Even with americas vaunted 2nd amendment, Russian-backed fascists just walked in and took over, and everyone is just watching them. No riots, no fighting back, just passive resistance.

    I wish all of you the best of luck. I’m going to go hug my kids.

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      Don’t blame the Russian for what the US is doing. A country that spent years of committing war crimes and establishing laws that invade privacy, haunting down journalist and humanitarian, is destined to use that power to abuse their own people sooner or later regardless of foreign intervention.