they weren’t things. treating them like things is part of what made that wrong.

and treating animals like people is also wrong.

I’m pretty salty about being forcibly removed, and having the posts removed, especially for this particular user to be granted mod powers and being the one to remove my posts. adding to that, they are lying now.

that comment doesn’t spread any misinformation about vegan philosophy or reflect any kind of astroturfing. I may be speciesist, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t moderate a vegan community, nor that my posts were somehow inappropriate for such a community.

it never was being steered by an astroturfer or someone pushing false narratives about vegan philosophy. it was me.

edit: i don’t know why they removed my posts. there were all about people liberating animals.

every human being is actually something and not someone

no, and this makes no sense

didn’t you try the directory I linked?

someone needs to do a new downfall re-sub

it’s slavery. no need to soften it

https://matrixrooms.info/

yea. I don’t use fluffy chat, I just use element, but it’s definitely searchable. there’s also a directory… let me dig it up

https://matrix.to/#%2F!GPQBPHOaOHUswTPQla%3Amatrix.org%3Fvia=mozilla.org&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de

we use matrix

the one that talks shit on so-called third parties is basically all conjecture and poorly interpreted academics.

eating meat doesn’t cause people in the meat industry to do anything. they get to choose what they do.

if I died today there is no reason for me to believe any industry would get smaller as a result, and I would of course stop purchasing everything.

there are more vegans now more than ever, and more meat produced. being vegan doesn’t decrease the size of the industry.

not any group. nonhumans.

whether I do or not, the industry continues to grow.

it’s illogical to try to fly a plane like you are driving a car. different things are different and it is correct to treat them so.

people should be treated differently than animals. doing so is necessary for right action. how we treat animals should have no bearing on how we treat each other.

obviously we disagree. i hold them accountable for their actions regardless.