When I get bored with the conversation/tired of arguing I will simply tersely agree with you and then stop responding. I’m too old for this stuff.
You are absolutely right that cars are heavier now, which means they are putting more energy into a collision, but cars are also better at dissipating that energy. I don’t actually know enough to know what wins in that face-off. You could very well be right. I’d defer to someone with more expertise in collisions.
Number of cars. Increase the number of cars, you increase the number of deaths. But any given collision is more likely to be survivable than in the past.
Also, it’s not a perfect analog, but a quick search for deer hits and you can see modern cars crumple just fine.
Don’t get me wrong… I’m not saying this deer was out dancing that very night, but if you’re gonna hit me at 30 MPH with either a flat, unyielding piece of steel with potentially sharp edges and/or rusted spots, or a soft piece of plastic or fiberglass formed to cushion my impact into the engine where the REALLY hard parts are, I’m going to choose the plastic/fiberglass every time.
Edit: Here. Just to back up the information I’m giving you…
The ABSOLUTE number of deaths are increasing, because the number of people and cars are increasing. But as a function of percentage of population they are only slightly above the lowest they’ve been since the 20’s. Modern cars are much safer. Even a bad SUV with horrible visibility is safer to all involved in a crash than an average car in the early 80’s. The numbers don’t lie.
Edit again: To give pedestrian numbers to go with that:
You do have a point… there ARE increases in recent years, but overall the rate is still nearly half of the rate in the 80s. You are correct the most very recent trend is worrying, however.
Don’t forget the inability of the rich to keep you in poverty wages when there aren’t 50 people waiting to replace you at every job!
Totally viable as an option if that’s the goal.
If that’s New Zealand’s goal, they should do exactly the same.
But if they’re looking for a balance between risk and convenience, there’s factors to be considered that the article glosses over.
If you get the opportunity. It’s just as likely the impact of the all-steel frame with no crumple actually bisects your body right in half, or crushes your internal organs to paste.
Rolling over a hood is “better” because it consumes energy. Everything about mitigating a crash impact is about putting as much of the energy of the impact as possible somewhere other than a human body. You don’t get the opportunity to do that at all if the initial impact is rigid. It’s putting all that collision energy directly into you.
It is - both things can be true. There are certainly some types of vehicles and conditions that are less safe than others, often for unjustifiable and stupid reasons, but the general trend of the average vehicle over time is towards being much safer than in the past. You’d still rather be hit by an SUV with a crumple zone than a sedan with an all steel body, all else being equal.
It’s also worth noting the current speed limits were set in 1985. I know this is the wrong place to point it out, and I do hate cars, but acknowledge they have value for some use cases. That said…
Since 1985, car safety evolution has introduced: -Traction Control -Anti-lock Brakes -Airbags -Electronic Stability Control -Crumple Zones -Adaptive Cruise Control -Blind spot detection -Pedestrian detection
…just to name a few. Cars are safer now than they’ve ever been, for both drivers and pedestrians (the Cybertruck not withstanding), so it’s equally strange to suggest that the same speed limit that was set in the mid-80s is the best balance of convenience and safety. If it’s simply a matter of reduction in absolute terms, why not LOWER the speed limit?
Not saying the article’s premise is wrong, but it’s kneejerk. In fact, smartly using speed limits can help to push traffic into out of the way areas where it will be less problematic to pedestrians. For example, lowering the speed limits in pedestrian areas in cities and increasing them less dense, outer areas can both improve traffic flow and make dense spaces more pedestrian friendly by diverting traffic into roads with fewer people. And intercity traffic through areas with little to no pedestrian traffic is a no-brainer.
That only works if you manage to make it there without hating YOURSELF.
I mean, it would make sense.
The only way a conspiracy theorist can be swayed is if being right isn’t a win condition. If there’s no other person to feel better than when you’re debating, something might actually sink in.
I know the cultural context and respect it as different from my own.
But it will never stop being viscerally disgusting to my personal sensibilities.
Every time I just suck it up. Pun intended.
Ramen. And they are slurping like an 85 year old man who hasn’t had to care in 6 decades.
I don’t know… I can’t answer what you’re trying to argue. That’s your hill to defend if you want to.
We live in a world where finding out what an exabyte is takes all of 3 seconds. You really want to argue the standard for communication of information should be based on the most ignorant and unmotivated people?
These things have a lagging indicator. You don’t see these feelings increase when the problems happen - you see them when people lose faith that they’re temporary.
Half the training is shooting the bow.
The other half is burying the intrusive thoughts.
Hardly worth mentioning at this point, but this is illegal.
I didn’t know Macron was MAGA…
“Here’s how to turn on a new feature whose settings your devices will magically forget for no reason once or twice a year, and occasionally lock your UI for several minutes while phoning home. Also make sure you replace ALL of your devices frequently with ones with the newest Android versions, because we’re CERTAINLY not going to support this feature on anything older than the jar of spaghetti sauce in your fridge, which you’ll find out when one of them just stops being compatible, which will happen at the WORST possible time when you’re in an important meeting or having your last phone call with your dying grandma or something.”
To be fair, I think people looked at the folks who were into mermaids as outlandish too. “Been around for a long time” doesn’t mean the same thing as “totally accepted socially”.