• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    It’s pretty crazy to me that this outrage is over sending back illegal immigrants. You’d think every country would have all the right to send those back. But I guess the situation in the US has been allowed, for the sake of economic interests, to get so bad that even that is now an outrage.

    Crazy world.

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      The outrage is over sending back illegal and legal migrants, they’re talking about reverting citizenship status for some, straight up tossing out legal like the Haitian migrants in Springfield… Also do you have any fucking idea how insane it is to expect a country to suddenly take back thousands of people that are no longer citizens there? The kids and shit they’ve had since they left?

      Oh and not to mention that Trump and friends promised that this thing is going to be bloody… they’re eating the cats and dogs after all right?

      But yeah why the outrage? Who cares about kids and families and human decency. They’re illegal!!! Throw em out with the garbage, right? Who cares about all the cheap ass jobs these people do? Who cares about the direct negative impact it has on farmers, construction companies and the like, just as we saw happen in Florida when they tried to institute the checking of papers each day at job sites to ensure proof of citizenship….

      Who cares at all of the immediate negative impacts to the economy that won’t just magically go away when nobody quits their current jobs to fill in for the now missing migrants?

      That’s what you want us to say right?

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        Most governments in Latin America, including Mexico’s, have worked to stay on a good footing with Mr. Trump, even as they have sought to emphasize the contributions their citizens make to the American economy, whatever their legal status.

        Countries are upset over illegals immigrants being deported too

        It’s kinda wild that countries are expecting others to host their illegal immigrants. I guess the US’s issue is the inaction for the longest time, now when it’s coming suddenly it upsets a lot of countries.

        Who cares about all the cheap ass jobs these people do?

        Who cares at all of the immediate negative impacts to the economy

        Corporations are exploiting even legal immigration to undercut unions and keep wages down, illegal immigration is much worse.

        But line must go up, I guess.

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          Leaving aside that borders are fake and shouldn’t exist without actual hostile intent… Sure bro, you’re all about unions and worker empowerment. That’s why you side with the Fox News crowd every time you can.

          And, just so we’re abundantly clear that you’re talking about something you don’t understand:

          Trump has been threatening to expel natural born citizens and the American fascists you always pipe up in support of historically don’t even check citizenship in the first place when they decide to start rounding up brown people.

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            Yeah I’m not even American though. We don’t have Fox News lol. But we have plenty strong unions who are voicing the same concern.

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              If conservatives gave a shit about worker’s wages they wouldn’t be conservatives and they wouldn’t fight against it every other step of the way.

              If they want union support on the issue they can stop trying to kill unions first.

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      “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

      I find it incredibly un-american to reject those searching for safety and to make a better life. Welcome them, shelter them, and grant them citizenship. That is what this country was founded for; to escape persecution, and to ensure every man their freedom in the pursuit of happiness.

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        A year before that poem was written the Chinese Exclusion Act went into effect. Nothing new under the sun.

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            I’m just pointing out the contradiction between the sentiment and the reality.

            Another grim contradiction would be the “ensure every man their freedom” part from your comment. The US had to have a civil war to make chattel slavery illegal.

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              While there may be many injustices in our history and the modern age, that does not mean we have to accept them or stand idle while they happen.

              The sentiment stands, and is a reality many will choose to die for.

              Just as you said, a war was fought to defend the freedoms of every man.

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                Many will vote and enact the complete opposite, which is why I think thinking of them as shared American ideals doesn’t convince me