• iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    no they started pirating because of the ridiculous number of screaming streaming services

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    things we tried:

    • jacking up prices
    • adding ads to paid services
    • canceling the better shows
    • not adding anything meaningful
    • making specifically terrible shows that are obviously terrible from the get go
    • making the algorithm noticeably worse to cover up for the worse output
    • platforming has-been comedians so they can cry about how they aren’t platformed anymore on our platform in a distinctly unfunny and joke-free manner

    We’re out of ideas… maybe we should utilize AI?

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      platforming has-been comedians so they can cry about how they aren’t platformed anymore on our platform in a distinctly unfunny and joke-free manner

      No no, I’m sure if they get Dave Chapelle to talk about how much he hates transpeople and sees no parallels between the on-going struggles of the African American and literally ANY other Rights Movement, then I’ll magically start giving a shit about what’s on Netflix!

      Tough break big N, maybe I’ll check you out when Steel Ball Run finally gets animated… Or not because I could probably get an uncensored version on a pirate streaming site as long as I use my VPN

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    Hmm… Yeah this is why they’re going after pirate sites because people pushing back.

    If green line for streaming does not continue to go up, I expect the propaganda with VPNs will be targeted as “used by criminals” Or “exclusive to CSAM” with talks of senate or house about “banning” or “restricting” them “for the children” in 2025

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      This is more or less implied in project 2025 with all the age verification shit they want to implement at a national level to keep kids from learning that gay people are humans.

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    Too many services with too low quality content.

    Once Upon a Time Netflix premiered a handful of huge shows and movies a season. Then they got addicted to watch metrics and decided everything should be “second screen content” from a firehose.

    Now I don’t watch any Netflix original until it’s concluded or has rave reviews, because it’s likely to get canceled in season 1 or just not be worth watching at all. And in the rare case it is great, gets picked up, and have rave reviews, they can still fuck it up like The Witcher.

    Every other network is pretty much guilty of this too. I’m so, so over it. They have made me actually long for the option of a singular cable-like license I could get, because they are so shitty at maintaining their services and their catalogs are so poor now.

    I just roll my own now and host a Plex server, because fuck em.

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      I don’t even pirate Netflix shows because there’s a good chance it will get canceled after one season. Why bother, knawmean

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    I think its more reflective that the price of streaming services continues to rise, while the value proposition does not. So why subscribe to all services at one time? You can only watch one at a time.

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        normies are not redicalized enough but these media parasites working OT on pushing them to sail.

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        Setup a Digital Ocean droplet in Amsterdam, years ago. LOL, not even sure how to login to it, because I don’t have to touch it.

        OpenVPN -> connect -> thepiratebay.org -> Tixati -> done

        Yeah, I could be more secure, do it better, good enough for me to steal movies and books.

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      Exactly. I finally cancelled Netflix a few weeks ago. It’s too expensive and there’s very little I want to watch on there any more. The shitty way they were trying to push you into more expensive plans was just the shit icing on the turd pie.

      I’m now looking at Disney+ and Prime Video because there’s hardly anything on those too that I like.

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        I ditched Disney+ when they added 50% onto the price. The exit questionnaire was annoying as it had one answer that lumped in “can’t afford it” with “too expensive” which implies it’s a “me” problem when it was definitely a “them” problem.

        I would have ditched Amazon Prime when they added adverts with an optional 50% price hike to remove them but my wife didn’t want to lose the prime delivery.

        The intention is that we subscribe to Disney+ for a few months a year and catch up on what we missed.

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        I hate the UI of prime video with a passion. From time to time I look for something to watch on it but I have the impression they try to keep me from causing traffic. After some minutes I give up and wonder why I didn’t cancel yet.

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          Yeah, they really broke it a video of years ago. It used to just show videos covered by the prime subscription. Then they started showing additional sub-services you could sign up. That was annoying but not too bad. But now they show you all sorts of stuff that doesn’t come with prime. That really pisses me off - not least because my kids still have a hard time differentiating the ‘free’ stuff from the ‘requires extra money’ stuff.

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            There’s a prime only browsing section but but you don’t seem to be able to limit the search to only return prime included stuff.

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              Yeah, and in my experience they buried that pretty fast down so it required don’t scrolling to get there each time.

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                It’s right on the top bar in the latest UI. At the same level as choosing movies or tv shows. It’s very easy to get to in fairness.

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                  That’s good. They must have changed it then. Because when I was looking for it a few months ago it was buried under several rows of paid content.

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        My wife has put on a few different Netflix original shows over the holidays, and they’re all sooo stupid. Their supposed best shows are complete garbage.

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        Kids make it complicated for sure, but we managed to drop Disney. Honestly I’d prefer they were on screens less anyway.

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        Next step is only annual contracts.

        This would destroy their subscriber bases. Not even cable required an annual subscription and there were many more hoops to jump through to subscribe and cancel.

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      This will only increase until there is sufficient backlash or, god forbid, Government oversight. These CEOs are getting hooked on the concept of being paid continuously for the same widget. Not only will these services get more predatory, but subscription models will continue to proliferate even into unlikely and surprising places.

      That’s my official end of year, forward looking, very lukewarm take for 2024.

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        Was it BMW that was trying to charge a subscription for seat warmers and automatic car starters that were built into the car already? They got serious push back and rolled back fast. Haven’t followed in a while wouldn’t be surprised if they were back to that model already.

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    1. Streaming time grows steadily for years.
    2. Streaming services insert ads in paid accounts.
    3. Streaming time decreases.
    4. “Streaming Fatigue” - yeah, that’s it! Obviously!
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      Don’t forget the steady fracturing of media licenses across dozens of services, coupled with enhanced enshittification.

      Everyone’s focusing so much on exclusivity to draw people in while their service quality quickly jumps straight down the nearest manhole.

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    I’m done with streaming it only really worked when there was one, now they’ve saturated it to the degree it’s pointless. Not only that but they keep raising prices for a worse service and now they have all went ad crazy on top of it.

    I see no benifit to subscribing to any of them I’d rather watch free to air stuff if I have to see ads, and for anything else I’ll hoist the black flag since I’d likely need about 10 subscriptions otherwise.

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      What killed it for me was Paramount moving all of Star Trek off Netflix when I was in the middle of a show. So, I moved to Paramount begrudgingly, and then they moved it to HBO. That’s when I was done. That and the Netflix password sharing changes made up my mind, and I cancelled everything.

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      It probably would have worked with more than one service if they did what music did: almost everything is everywhere. If you pay for a music service, you almost certainly can find what you are looking for. (Hell, one doesn’t even need to pay for Youtube and the vast majority is there too). Contrast with streaming services where each piece of content is likely only on one service.

      No, I will not be paying for more than one streaming service, if your content isn’t on the service I pay for, that is your problem, not mine.

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    No one has mentioned COVID and habits. Sure we aren’t in lockdown, but it was literally the only thing to do a few years ago and people likely continued due to it be a comfort.

    It has changed how we did things. As well as all the enshitifucation.

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      I think unintentialy, but yes. They talk about spending. I don’t know what you usually pay for your torrents, but I don’t think it will change the number much.

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        From my experience there are two ways to get torrents (aside from piratebay): you either get invited to a hosting site or you pay a big entry fee. There also is stuff like IPTV now which also costs monthly

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          I recently renewed a 6-month subscription to The Crew (via Kodi.) For unlimited torrent streaming, the cost is only around $2 US per month.

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        My point is that I have been streaming for years, and I never spent more than $0 on it. So…fatigue? I dont know what they’re talking about.

        Streaming is free and great!