• MudMan@fedia.io
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    6 days ago

    Because it turns out sociology, anthropology and politics also exist.

    If you were in space and looked at Earth you wouldn’t see any people.

    EDIT: Crap, someone is going to point out that you can see lights at night, aren’t they? This thread is for pedants and now I’ve started a conversation about biomarkers you can see from orbit.

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      5 days ago

      The whole point is that it doesn’t have to be this way. We can change it if we wanted to, we are participants of sociology anthropology and politics. Oh well social constructs

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        5 days ago

        Yeah, but that’s my point. There’s a tendency, particularly on STEM people, but also on your average normies, to think that “social constructs” aren’t “real”. This is a very bad take that often causes a lot of problems.

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          5 days ago

          Ofc it’s real. Money is a construct and it’s real.

          But what we made creates so much suffering and takes lives away. That’s just not necessary. And ofc changing it will probably take some power away from the previliged, that’s the point. Ideally we want everyone to be satisfied, but not when there’s still people dying of starvation.

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            5 days ago

            I don’t know that I claimed it’d take power away from the privileged. If I had to make an educated guess, the idea that “it’s a social construct so we can change it” tends to lead to proposing easy solutions to complicated problems that only work if we all agree they work.

            They normally don’t work.

            And if the people proposing them are powerful enough to get convinced that all they need to do is force everybody to agree with them regardless it often ends in tears.

            Hell, catch me in a good day I’ll tell you changing natural realities is easier than changing social constructs. On par at best, and nature at least won’t argue about it.

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              4 days ago

              Proposing easy solution to complicate problems is never my point.

              My point is we can stop actively reinforcing the construct that hurts people, or at least be open to be more lenient about it. And see where that leads us to. We don’t want to just drop in a complete new construct and have everyone agree to it, I don’t think that’s even possible. But change in a direction we want to and let the rest develop naturally, just like how we developed the current system.

              Obviously it’s not easy, it’s complicated as you said. But the current system requires active reinforcement. Doing a little less is a whole lot better than doing more to hurt.