• John Richard@lemmy.world
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    My hands are clean. I didn’t support a genocide candidate. Any blood will be on the hands of the Kamala campaign for praising a war criminal and saying that she’d continue paying tax dollars to Israel to massacre innocent civilians.

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        Gaza was straight up annihilated under Biden and no I don’t feel righteous because it was still my country supporting it. I am proud to not have personally voted for a candidate that feels righteous supporting those doing the enslaving and genocide though. Your argument that people should vote for the plantation owner cause the other one will own more slaves isn’t appealing and clearly wasn’t a winning strategy. If you were concerned about slaves then you would have rejected the idea of owning plantations altogether.

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            You act like Kamala’s position wasn’t a choice she made. Do you think she was under some sort of threat of death if she didn’t support genocide?

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                So you’re saying that had she not supported genocide, that she wouldn’t have got enough funding to run her campaign? How is that any better? Are you suggesting that Israel has so much money that a candidate can’t win unless they support whatever they do? Hasn’t the left been alleging that Israel having massive influence in American politics and media due to money was an antisemtic trope? How does Bernie win while still trying to stop weapon shipments to Israel?

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                  Its not antisemetic to point out a foreign nation is lobbying our government. Theyre far from the only country influencing it, and half our own people are down with it for their own religious reasons. This isnt blood libel. Not least of which for the fact that Israel does not represent all Jews, who- if I recall correctly- are among the only demographics to lean majority-Democrat this last cycle

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      “You should have worked with the murderer to kill more people instead of taking a chance calling the cops!”

      I mean ACAB and all that, but damn

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        Ah yes the benevolent serial killer that is just expediting the ending of suffering. Kamala was just helping women and kids respawn so they could join back on Team America.

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          Are you fucking serious right now? None of that is even close to what I said.

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      You didn’t support a genocide candidate, but you failed to prevent an outcome 100x worse. You claim to wash your hands of it, but you’re using bullshit as soap.

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        You can’t prove an outcome 100x worse because the future hasn’t happened yet.

        With Biden’s behavior towards Russia post election, there’s no guarantee that Harris bringing us into WW3 wouldn’t be 100x worse.

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          You can’t prove an outcome 100x worse because the future hasn’t happened yet.

          Yes, that is indeed how the future works, but I’m confident trump is much worse than Kamala on this issue, based on past events, which tends to be the best predictor of future events.

          Speaking of which…

          With Biden’s behavior towards Russia post election, there’s no guarantee that Harris bringing us into WW3 wouldn’t be 100x worse.

          The term you should lookup is “appeasement”, you should have paid more attention during middle school history, and less attention to whatever conspiracy/propaganda hole that fuckwit opinion dribbled out of.

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            Cool, why don’t you go look up mutually assured destruction?

            Sorry but trying to get Ukraine into nato was nato poking the Russians. The maiden revolution was a color regime change by the west to throw out a pro Russian leader back in 2014 by Obama’s ambassador Victoria neuland.

            This could of all been avoided, but then how would the military industrial complex goons afford the remodel on their third bathroom in their fourth house?

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              Cool, why don’t you go look up mutually assured destruction?

              Uncle Vlad isn’t going to nuke everything he’s got simply because he’s not allowed to have a little bit more of something that is not his in the first place.

              As for Ukraine wanting to join NATO, that only happens after Russia invaded in 2022. There was a vote in 2014, but it had low support in the populace at the time.

              You should really examine where you are getting your info from, your view of history and current events is not congruent with reality…

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                Delusional. The second a single nuke no matter how small is dropped is the second they all start flying. He’s desperate to stay in power and the US is desperate to regime change him.

                I expect Harris, if elected, would of given us higher WW3 chances.

                We shouldn’t be going through nuclear brinkmanship right now, and there’s been plenty of off ramps to put an end to this but the military industrial complex needs forever wars to function. It’s not a coincidence we find ourselves once again in a forever war just after the last one “ended”.

                And what happened in 2014? Oh yeah. Some nato fucking around and regime changing in Ukraine. This could of been avoided.

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        I didn’t fail to prevent anything. I’ve never been good at lying to myself and others by pretending that bullshit soap is high quality lavender soap. If you want me to sell lavender soap then give me lavender soap to sell.

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          I didn’t fail to prevent anything.

          Bingo, getting trump elected was the goal all along.

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            One could say that of the democrats for forcing an unelected candidate as nominee. She didn’t win a single primary vote. They knew when biden announced re-election that they’d lose with their own polling.

            They don’t give a fuck about you.

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              Despite all that, trump has been and will be by far the worst president, and there is barely an excuse not to vote against him, and absolutely none at all to vote for him.

              What makes you think trump gives a fuck about you?

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                Trump doesn’t give a fuck about me.

                Trump was terrible, I’d still argue that bush 2 was the worst ever.

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                  Oh yeah, bush 2 was bad, but trump ruined any hope I had of Bush 2 gettting hanged for warcrimes.