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    Rose said online that she told an officer she’d been assaulted and the cop said, “Well, you went to his door.”

    Clearly the rule of law is dead now.

    “Nobody should be turning up at any bodies [sic] house uninvited,” Tate posted Monday. “Harassment.”

    These idiots somehow think that assaulting and robbing someone who rings their doorbell is the appropriate thing to do.

    The alt-right reaction is never the right reaction.

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      But with just enough narrative spin aka “journalistical freedomses” this poor man is being persecuted for exercising free speech. The radical feminist left has harassed this man for simply using his constitutional rights. /s

      No pearl left unclutched.

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    Please do not go to his fucking house.

    He’s a piece of shit - don’t go to jail for him.

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      Do not go to his house in Berwyn, IL. You will not be able to find it on Google maps because it’s the only house on the block that’s blurred out.

      Absolutely do not go to his house at all hours of the day and night. Do not look out for cops when you dont go to his house. Do not legally knock on his door.

      And most of all, DO NOT make him feel the same fear that his words have brought to so many women.

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          Don’t walk around the block, using public sidewalks that would evade trespassing. That would look like prey being circled and the resident of Berwyn IL doesn’t want to be nervous. Crowds saying one name circling the block would be too much for them!

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          Do not leave letters in the neighbors’ mailboxes informing them that a neo Nazi lives by them. Do not elaborate on his history of violent rhetoric. Do not do anything that would make him feel like an outcast in his neighborhood.

          Do not print this information along with his name, address, and photo and give it to every store, restaurant, and fast food place in a 20 mile radius. Especially avoid letting the underpaid staff know about any of this. We DO NOT want him to receive poor service wherever he goes. It would be BAD if he was scared to leave the house. It would be EVEN WORSE if his GrubHub driver crushed or shook his meal. I would HATE to hear that his address got blacklisted for delivery.

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        I read it as a jail thing. His body in jail because of their (jury) choice.

        But now I realize it was probably rape.

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        I won’t be shedding any tears for the guy who started the “your body, my choice” meme.

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        Stop trying to police language.

        Jokes need only to be judged on if they’re funny, or not.

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            Impressive.

            Only one of those words is actually English, and you still managed to use it incorrectly.

            Unless it was an extremely misplaced and subtle nod to Alanis Morissette.

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              Nah it wasn’t. Although I really should listen to more of her stuff.

              Seriously though, what is the deal with trying to stop others from doing the exact same thing that you are doing by speaking in the imperative form?

              It’s a comment section after all.

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            Many of us heard it back in 2016, but the media ran a smear campaign when we attempted to identify that we were life long liberals who could no longer support this sort of insanity, by tying the term “alt-right” to actual Nazis.

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              Thanks for taking the time to reply, but:

              Many of us heard it back in 2016, but the media

              I lost interest after this. Someone’s talking about normalising the sexual assault of a group of people - as likeable or dislikeable as they may be - and all I can see is some “I told you so” word salad?

              I’m sorry if I’ve picked you up wrong, but I’m happy to be corrected.

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          If the only difference between you and them is who is in the in group and the out group, you might not be so different after all.

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    I hate Nick Fuentes and his content, but her story is suspicious. I find it very strange that she took it upon herself to learn where his house is, go there, and try to talk to the guy. If the roles were reversed, a MAGA supporter showing up at a liberal public figure’s home, I think people would interpret it as harassment.

    That said, I don’t understand how this was a legal use of pepper spray. If she really only said “hello” and did not try to advance into the house, then I don’t think he could reasonably argue he felt threatened with bodily harm in any way.

    That’s an issue for court to decide though. I imagine the truth lies in the full video.

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      Learning where his house is would take no effort as he’s been so thoroughly doxxed even I saw his address and I’m basically that meme of the old lady peering at the screen through my granny-glasses.

      A perfect alpha male, frightened to death at a woman saying “Hello” while he’s still in the safety of his house. Compare that to the women who ovary up and keep going while they’re being catcalled, or make the potentially life-threatening decision to say either yes or no to a strange man in a bar.

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        Looking up his address and going there could be premeditation for harassment or harm depending on how the series of events at the door transpired. It doesn’t matter if he is an alpha male or if she is in a wheelchair, it is reasonable to think that a stranger who has come to your home to confront you over internet posts may mean you harm.

        That said, I don’t think he was justified in deploying pepper spray without at least verbally ordering her to leave the property. If he did that and she stayed though…then there isn’t going to be much legal defense available to her in many states.

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      It turns out in America it’s surprisingly easy to get away with pepper spraying people. There’s a weird YouTube rabbit hole of “free speech auditors” who go around doing things they’re legally allowed to do but are shitty to get reactions. They escalate things until they pepper spray the person they’re aggravating. Even in their own videos cops show up and basically just shrug. I think the logic is that since it doesn’t cause any long term damage that a lawyer can pretty easily argue it was a “reasonable force”

      Short answer: I’d be surprised if he suffers any consequences from this

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        I know that—I have pepper spray for self defense for that very reason, along with other weapons.

        The issue is that you have to feel reasonably threatened still. For a gun, the bar is serious harm, and for pepper spray it can be a much milder threat such as approaching or violent words.

        I just don’t see how “hello” is threatening before a verbal order to leave the property. That’s why I think the video is important—her attitude and stance will make a huge difference in how justified the response was.