No they wouldn’t, it would be bad for their investments in the economy, with more workers in the labour pool the cheaper labour becomes. So reducing that worker pool would mean companies would spend more on each worker reducing profits. Same for any political party though, since they are all run by %1ers anyway. (At least in the USA)
The problem is you think of them as one group when there are two white supremacists / religious zealots, and capitalist. The capitalist use the first group to get power to get capital and keep capital for themselves. They want cheap labor while the first group just wants more white babies and less anything else. The second group justs wants cheap labor and zero regulations and they can get cheap labor overseas if there are no regulations so they don’t care about mass deportations.
Yeah but who creates most of the service jobs Small business owners and they are not the ones I’m talking about in the capitalist group. The real capitalists just convinced them they are in the capitalist group so they vote with the first group.
I call them the embarrassed millionaires as they vote against themselves on the off chance they make it to the that next tier. The problem men like Howard Pew and John Birch stack the deck against us before most of us were even born.
Remember it was the National Association of Manufacturers and their meeting with James William Fifield Jr in response to FDRs the New Deal that started all this. You can draw a line directly from that meeting to Billy Graham to Ronald Ragan to The Tea Party to Trump.
Also automation is already be coming for those service jobs. Self checkout or order kiosk / mobile ordering anyone at McDonald’s. It turns a service job into a manufacturing job.
If democrats really wanted to improve our lives, they wouldn’t have quashed Bernie in 2016 or 2020. What they did this year with Kamala was equivalent.
She was still a better choice in every possible aspect over Trump. It wasn’t enough.
I agree. Democrats are freshly revealed to be hot garbage, but they’re still lightyears ahead of republicans and I find it disgusting to make any remark that alludes to them being the same
Lol, if by “freshly” you mean “for at least almost a decade if not further back”
I find it disgusting to make any remark that alludes to them being the same
It sucks, but they literally both do what the guy is accusing them of, so they’re actually the same here. Doesn’t mean they’re perfectly identical in all other ways, but this is and has been a major red flag for yeeeeeaaarssss BECAUSE it’s a spot where they’re the same
I’m just tired of the false equivalency that landed us in fascism. But enjoy feeling smug about how you knew this is exactly how Democrats would run this campaign 10+ years ago.
I’m just tired of the false equivalency that landed us in fascism
Valid criticism of the Dems isn’t false equivalency, it’s so fucking annoying to hear people keep acting like it is
enjoy feeling smug about how you knew this is exactly how Democrats would run this campaign 10+ years ago.
Didn’t claim anything close to that, merely pointed out that acting like this election suddenly revealed something new only proves youre unaware of previous ones
And I’m annoyed that we continue to see “both parties” without strong fucking qualifiers.
acting like this election suddenly revealed something new
You have no idea what I meant and you obviously care more about making something up than knowing. I meant that we saw democrats reach a new level of ineptitude with this election cycle. If you cannot see or accept that is true, then I’m right. You’re smug and not interested in actually conversing with me or understanding what democrats do/don’t do correctly.
“No they wouldn’t, it would be bad for their investments in the economy, with more workers in the labour pool the cheaper labour becomes. So reducing that worker pool would mean companies would spend more on each worker reducing profits.”
I think people ought to be to have enough intelligence to know that a statement like that can be true and at the same time, one party acts nakedly, unashamedly that way, and the other doesn’t.
The fact that Trump won probably proves I’m an idiot for thinking people don’t have to be nuanceless morons. But the fact remains that we remain entirely fucked because people can’t tell the difference in dogshit and dirt. Comments like the ones above help reinforce the idiocracy.
“Both parties…” followed by anything is almost always unhelpful and destructive but sure go ahead and defend that shit.
From where I sit the Democratic party was so afraid of an actual changecandidate that they neglected to have a primary and foisted a milquetoast pro-LE candidate that didn’t do anything to reach their base and instead tried to court it’s opponents supporters. So, maybe they’re actually worse than Republicans, at least an R will tell you they hate you and want to take your rights.
An openly fascist rapist beat them, if that isn’t an indictment of them I don’t know what is.
The Democratic party lost, it’s now OK to point at them and say “what a bunch of out of touch rich fucks” and throw them to the wolves, they do not represent us and in that way, are exactly the same as the other side.
No they wouldn’t, it would be bad for their investments in the economy, with more workers in the labour pool the cheaper labour becomes. So reducing that worker pool would mean companies would spend more on each worker reducing profits. Same for any political party though, since they are all run by %1ers anyway. (At least in the USA)
This logic doesn’t align with their mass deportation policy.
Consistency was never their strong point.
Republicans consistently take the worst side on any issue, so there’s that.
Mmm, the most profitable side for themselves or their donors.
Then you’d better tell them, because it will cause more problems than just worker pay, drops in productivity due to a lack of man power.
They’re not listening to me.
The problem is you think of them as one group when there are two white supremacists / religious zealots, and capitalist. The capitalist use the first group to get power to get capital and keep capital for themselves. They want cheap labor while the first group just wants more white babies and less anything else. The second group justs wants cheap labor and zero regulations and they can get cheap labor overseas if there are no regulations so they don’t care about mass deportations.
True, now that I’m thinking about it, you’re correct about manufacturing but not service jobs.
Yeah but who creates most of the service jobs Small business owners and they are not the ones I’m talking about in the capitalist group. The real capitalists just convinced them they are in the capitalist group so they vote with the first group.
I call them the embarrassed millionaires as they vote against themselves on the off chance they make it to the that next tier. The problem men like Howard Pew and John Birch stack the deck against us before most of us were even born.
Remember it was the National Association of Manufacturers and their meeting with James William Fifield Jr in response to FDRs the New Deal that started all this. You can draw a line directly from that meeting to Billy Graham to Ronald Ragan to The Tea Party to Trump.
Also automation is already be coming for those service jobs. Self checkout or order kiosk / mobile ordering anyone at McDonald’s. It turns a service job into a manufacturing job.
Modus Tollens
Ah yes, bOtH sIdEs BaD. Glad to see you welcome what’s coming. Since we’re totally in the same exact position as if Kamala had won /s
One side is worse, but both sides ARE bad.
If democrats really wanted to improve our lives, they wouldn’t have quashed Bernie in 2016 or 2020. What they did this year with Kamala was equivalent.
She was still a better choice in every possible aspect over Trump. It wasn’t enough.
I agree. Democrats are freshly revealed to be hot garbage, but they’re still lightyears ahead of republicans and I find it disgusting to make any remark that alludes to them being the same
Lol, if by “freshly” you mean “for at least almost a decade if not further back”
It sucks, but they literally both do what the guy is accusing them of, so they’re actually the same here. Doesn’t mean they’re perfectly identical in all other ways, but this is and has been a major red flag for yeeeeeaaarssss BECAUSE it’s a spot where they’re the same
I’m just tired of the false equivalency that landed us in fascism. But enjoy feeling smug about how you knew this is exactly how Democrats would run this campaign 10+ years ago.
Valid criticism of the Dems isn’t false equivalency, it’s so fucking annoying to hear people keep acting like it is
Didn’t claim anything close to that, merely pointed out that acting like this election suddenly revealed something new only proves youre unaware of previous ones
And I’m annoyed that we continue to see “both parties” without strong fucking qualifiers.
You have no idea what I meant and you obviously care more about making something up than knowing. I meant that we saw democrats reach a new level of ineptitude with this election cycle. If you cannot see or accept that is true, then I’m right. You’re smug and not interested in actually conversing with me or understanding what democrats do/don’t do correctly.
That’s not what happened here, though?
I do know what you meant, because English words have meaning
No, we didn’t, we just saw them fail harder while doing all the same shit they always have, as I said
Keep strawmanning me and ignoring everything I say, I’m sure eventually you’ll make a valid point with that technique!
Do you actually disagree with any of what they said or is snark your contribution?
I disagree with equating the parties, clearly. Kids born 50 years from now will too, if they decide to read about American history.
“No they wouldn’t, it would be bad for their investments in the economy, with more workers in the labour pool the cheaper labour becomes. So reducing that worker pool would mean companies would spend more on each worker reducing profits.”
You agree with that comment?
That part, I have no problem with. I just told you what my problem with it was. Seems you didn’t really care.
So, do you think one of the parties isn’t owned by the 1%?
I think people ought to be to have enough intelligence to know that a statement like that can be true and at the same time, one party acts nakedly, unashamedly that way, and the other doesn’t.
The fact that Trump won probably proves I’m an idiot for thinking people don’t have to be nuanceless morons. But the fact remains that we remain entirely fucked because people can’t tell the difference in dogshit and dirt. Comments like the ones above help reinforce the idiocracy.
“Both parties…” followed by anything is almost always unhelpful and destructive but sure go ahead and defend that shit.
From where I sit the Democratic party was so afraid of an actual changecandidate that they neglected to have a primary and foisted a milquetoast pro-LE candidate that didn’t do anything to reach their base and instead tried to court it’s opponents supporters. So, maybe they’re actually worse than Republicans, at least an R will tell you they hate you and want to take your rights.
An openly fascist rapist beat them, if that isn’t an indictment of them I don’t know what is.
The Democratic party lost, it’s now OK to point at them and say “what a bunch of out of touch rich fucks” and throw them to the wolves, they do not represent us and in that way, are exactly the same as the other side.