• BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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    They’ll learn the left never shows up, even when their human fucking rights are at stake. Next election the Dems will go hard center, to get the voters that actually show up. *We’re going to see them go hard on Clinton’s “It’s the economy, stupid”.

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      They’ll learn the left never shows up, even when their human fucking rights are at stake.

      The right didn’t show up either, but you lot were gung-ho about getting their fucking approval. You showed the left everything you are.

      If the left are not important enough to court, they’re not important enough to blame, even though that means your strategy was shit and you moved to the right for nothing but the sheer joy of it.

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      I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or a colossal idiot who learned nothing from the satirical article about the fact that the people you’re deflecting blame off of learning nothing.

      If it’s the former, well done I guess? 🤷

      If it’s the latter, please wake the fuck up and smell the malignant incompetence.

      Edit: just realized that you’re the “Hillary 2016 was further left than Obama 2008” weirdo, so it’s DEFINITELY the latter. Please abandon your ridiculous pet hypothesis and get a fucking clue.

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        As a non-American I wanna ask: Is the American left blaming Harris and the DNC for this or is it all “Americans are so sexist” and “leftists suck” nonsense like I’m seeing here? Idk where to get this information and I wanna know if I get to have some faith in humanity.

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          It’s all of the above, really. The Left (actual left, rather than the center right to right wing Democrats in charge of the party) is blaming the DNC, Harris, racism, sexism, the billionaire-owned media, the antiquated political system, and of course the people who voted for fascism. Because all of those things contributed meaningfully to the baffling and tragic result.

          Meanwhile, the DNC and their most diehard supporters blame racism, sexism, and most of all the Left.

          They obstinately refuse to acknowledge that their “team” fucked up, so they’re blaming the people whose warnings they refused to listen to.

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      She was on a rocketship trajectory before getting Cheney on and focusing on old ex-R endorsements. There aren’t enough voters in the center and you can’t switch any magats is the takeaway.

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        She was on a rocketship trajectory before getting Cheney

        That’s what we thought but apparently not. All this time a large chunk of Americans were getting brainwashed by social media algorithms that she’s going to start WW3, or going to let all the illegal immigrants in, or she is going to make gas even more expensive, or round up Christians or some other bullshit.

        The DNC didn’t have a chance because the voters are fucking morons.

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          and you’re never going to be able to stop that, so you need to give the left who stayed home (as fucking stupid as that was) someone to be excited about

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            I wonder if liberals have finally stopped calling anyone who criticizes Harris and the DNC campaign a MAGA troll.

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            You think there are millions of self-proclaimed leftists in USA? Sure buddy.

            And these ‘leftists’ saw who might be president and they still chose to abstain?

            Good job. 👍

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              The DNC saw who their rival is and decided to move in that direction instead of catering to the millions that are not voting because of their lacklustre policies. Good job the DNC as well, then.

              What about the ones who are voting but doesn’t use their voice to pressure the DNC to adopt more progressive policies, but instead prefer to alienate the left even more by attacking them the whole way up to the election. I’m sure they’re happy with their decision, as well.

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        There are literally shit tons of voters in the center, that is the big fat juicy center that decides elections. Plus those voters are worth double, because it’s a vote for you and a vote taken away from the other party.

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          Dems lose when they try to appease this magical center because it takes the wind out of the sails of of their voting base. I mean getting buddy buddy with Liz Cheney killed my enthusiasm entirely and I only showed up to vote against Republicans instead of wanting to vote.

          Dems win when they promote hope and energize voters to increase voting turnout. She squandered that momentum.

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            Go through history: After successive losses Bill Clinton went center on the economy, as you do against an incumbent, and won. Gore when left with climate change and lost. Obama relied on “hope” and won after Bush’s disastrous wars. Hillary said she’d have a map room to fight climate change and lost. Biden went center, as you do against an incumbent, and won. Kamala tried to copy Obama’s “hope” and energy, but “it’s the economy, stupid”. Every time the Dems lose it’s because they relied on the left that didn’t show up, and the Dems only win when they go center.

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              You’re trying to pretend that Harris ran to the left because you still think it’s the fucking 90s.

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              That’s… interesting… I don’t know about Bill Clinton, not too familiar with that part of American history, but Gore? Gore won but didn’t demand a recount of Florida. Obama relied on leftist policies and wiped the floor with the GOP. Hillary lost because she was a “hold your nose and vote for her” centrist, not because she relied on leftists what the fuck are you even talking about? Harris did the same thing as Hillary and predictably lost.

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                and even the biden win was just stupidly close given trump literally drove your whole country head first into the top “fucked up the pandemic” spot

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              Every time they lost it’s because they relied on the left that didn’t show up

              The left DOES show up…but here’s the thing…there’s not enough of them to make a difference. I know it FEELS like leftism and even progressivism is super duper popular because its omnipresent on the internet but in the real world there just aren’t enough of them to matter for national elections outside of a few specific places.

              It’s like relying on an 8 year old to help you move furniture. You quickly realize that they just aren’t strong enough to do much.

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          This is true, and those voters main concern in presidential elections is the economy. According to NBC’s exit polling:

          Nearly half — 45% — of all voters said they were worse off financially than they were four years ago. That was a higher level of dissatisfaction than what registered in exit polls in any recent election going back to 2008, when the election took place amid the financial crisis that propelled Barack Obama to victory.

          Though the economy is growing […] 2 in 3 voters rated the U.S. economy poorly, a level higher than in 2020, when the country struggled to get in gear during the Covid pandemic.

          […] About three-quarters of voters nationwide said they felt negatively about the way things are going in the country, including 29% who said they were downright angry.

          Meanwhile only 4% of voters cited foreign policy (which covers the Gaza genocide and Ukraine’s defense – immigration was broken out into a separate category) as their main concern. Even if Harris flipped the big red “stop the genocide” button and brought those single issue voters out of hiding, there’s no way they could outnumber the voters who were pissed about the economy.

          Frankly, if she was going to have a real chance, she needed to throw Biden under the bus – and it still might not have made a difference.

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            If she came out and said she would stop companies fucking their customers, that might have done it.

            I think instead she entertained firing Lina Khan?

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      Ya, I feel like I’m taking crazy pills with all these posts blaming democrats for losing when billionaires are literally buying votes to stop Harris.