Biden administration has raised serious concerns about collection of data by Chinese companies on US drivers and infrastructure as well as the potential foreign manipulation of vehicles
Blind nationalism as a cover to protect our shoddy domestic garbage companies from competition.
I’d expect nothing less.
These clowns can’t even be bothered to repeal the chicken tax so we can buy a Hilux. Because our domestic planned obsolescence machines cannot compete.
Don’t pretend like they can be trusted. China’s lack of human rights, backdoors in hardware, hostility to it’s neighbors and constant hacking attempts are a problem.
What’s your point? The Chinese government backdoored phone switches all over the world. Neither country should trust the other with vital communication or transportation infrastructure. Whataboutism does not equal trust.
When it’s an enemy nation yes it can be used as a point. This is also the exact same reason why China banned most things coming from the USA, and the things that make it there are very tightly controlled by China’s government
I’m not pro-China, but will probably sound that way here. We are all nation-states composed of arbitrary rules. We all think we are the best. We all think the others are less. We all do shitty things to our people. We also need each other to survive. It’s a clusterfuck that needs a fix. Xenophobia is never the answer.
It’s not about xenophobism, it’s about not relying on a nation that could have the incentive to flip the switch in a few years when they think it’s convenient for them. The US gov sees all the shiny and cheap stuff coming from China as trojan horses
My Brother in Baphomet. I live in the United States of Corporate America.
We have 800 military bases all over the world and the last time we were the good guys in any war was World War Two. And only then begrudgingly. Our govt loooooooved bad mustache man.
Right this very minute. In the year two thousand and twenty four we have a BOOMING slave labor industry and half the country wants to bring back child labor.
Please. Tell me more about how terrible China is. Do go on. I hope there’s a PowerPoint. Spare not 1 detail.
Fuck off with that we havent been the good guys since WW2, we were in the right in Korea and in the Yugoslav conflict. Desert storm is a everyones an asshole mode, Vietnam was objectively bad, Iraq and Afghanistan were horrible, and fuck New Granada with a rusty pole.
Just imagine when China tries to invade Taiwan and turns off the controls for 30% of the cars on the highway as part of their first strike on the US.
Make no mistake China is already deep inside many systems and has been probing for all sorts of attacks against critical infrastructure. There is zero doubt they would exploit their cars as well.
Blind nationalism as a cover to protect our shoddy domestic garbage companies from competition.
I’d expect nothing less.
These clowns can’t even be bothered to repeal the chicken tax so we can buy a Hilux. Because our domestic planned obsolescence machines cannot compete.
Don’t pretend like they can be trusted. China’s lack of human rights, backdoors in hardware, hostility to it’s neighbors and constant hacking attempts are a problem.
Oh, yeah, the US Federal Government would neeevvverrr put backdoors into things. Not ever. Not BlackBerry, or iPhone, or messaging apps, or anything…
…oh, wait.
What’s your point? The Chinese government backdoored phone switches all over the world. Neither country should trust the other with vital communication or transportation infrastructure. Whataboutism does not equal trust.
One cannot really use a universal fact shared between the two nations as a plot point.
When it’s an enemy nation yes it can be used as a point. This is also the exact same reason why China banned most things coming from the USA, and the things that make it there are very tightly controlled by China’s government
I’m not pro-China, but will probably sound that way here. We are all nation-states composed of arbitrary rules. We all think we are the best. We all think the others are less. We all do shitty things to our people. We also need each other to survive. It’s a clusterfuck that needs a fix. Xenophobia is never the answer.
It’s not about xenophobism, it’s about not relying on a nation that could have the incentive to flip the switch in a few years when they think it’s convenient for them. The US gov sees all the shiny and cheap stuff coming from China as trojan horses
My Brother in Baphomet. I live in the United States of Corporate America.
We have 800 military bases all over the world and the last time we were the good guys in any war was World War Two. And only then begrudgingly. Our govt loooooooved bad mustache man.
Right this very minute. In the year two thousand and twenty four we have a BOOMING slave labor industry and half the country wants to bring back child labor.
Please. Tell me more about how terrible China is. Do go on. I hope there’s a PowerPoint. Spare not 1 detail.
American shortcomings do not excuse Chinese atrocities. I’ll refer you to the Ughyur, Tibetan and factory dorms people for more info.
US hegemony has led to more human rights abuses and outright devastation than any other nation in history, and it isn’t even close.
Fix your own country’s bullshit before crying about anyone else’s.
No thanks. In the end, this thread is about whether the United States should blindly trust technology from China and the answer to that is no.
Two things can be true at the same time. Your argument is full of whataboutism.
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China is not good because America is bad.
Fuck off with that we havent been the good guys since WW2, we were in the right in Korea and in the Yugoslav conflict. Desert storm is a everyones an asshole mode, Vietnam was objectively bad, Iraq and Afghanistan were horrible, and fuck New Granada with a rusty pole.
I don’t live in America, both America and China are fucked up places for citizens rights.
One wrong doesn’t make another right
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That’s not nationalism? It’s national security.
Just imagine when China tries to invade Taiwan and turns off the controls for 30% of the cars on the highway as part of their first strike on the US.
Make no mistake China is already deep inside many systems and has been probing for all sorts of attacks against critical infrastructure. There is zero doubt they would exploit their cars as well.
Cool.
Is that anything at all like a Starter Interrupter? Google it if you don’t recognize the term.
Just going to jump in to say that I would love to be able to own a Hilux.
Me too.