• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I’ve said multiple times in this thread that I’m voting for Biden. I’ve told you that multiple times as well. You have chosen to ignore it and call me a trumpist.

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      6 months ago

      Your insistence on pivoting the conversation to be anti-biden literally every chance you get is suspicious to say the least

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        Your intense rage and conspiratorial suspicion at people criticizing Biden for actively abetting a genocide is pretty suspicious to say the least.

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          So anyone opposed to curtailing abortion rights also loves actively killing babies too, right?

          It’s definitely not that it’s more complicated than that. It’s that such folks love to watch babies get murdered. Tickles them pink. Your “argument” is definitely not a cop-out meant to shut down anyone who disagrees by accusing them of supporting something that at most .01% of humans would ever support. It’s completely and totally honest.

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            It is really hard to believe you folks don’t want genocide when you spend every day railing at people who want it to stop. I recognize usernames from the people who were shouting we were supporting Trump for voting uncomitted in a primary. If your reaction to every instance of someone trying to pressure Biden to not continue a genocide is vitriolic rage, then I think I should be questioning your motives.

            I don’t think you want the genocide necessarily, I just think you’re so terrified and self-interested that you won’t risk literally anything to stop a genocide. You’re cowards who are going to let my coworkers families be shelled out of their homes in the hope that Biden will save you from Trump, rather than trying for even an instant to prevent it from happening. I also think that supporting the genocide is going to lose Biden the election, so I think even your self-interested fear is deluded. Biden is sitting on damning evidence of his administration pushing for Israel support despite growing evidence of Israel’s crimes, and I am not naive enough to think that will remain secret until election day.

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              Which is it?

              It is really hard to believe you folks don’t want genocide when you spend every day railing at people who want it to stop

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              I don’t think you want the genocide necessarily

              ?

              What’s hard for me to believe is that the users – which I see every day just waiting for an opportunity to throw Biden under the bus for not stopping something he could at best TRY to stop, except instead of acknowledging that reality, laying all of it at his feet – have no ulterior motive.

              I also think that supporting the genocide is going to lose Biden the election

              If that happens, it will be aided tremendously by campaigns like yours and your friends, going around trying to get people to blame Biden entirely for something that at most he failed to act properly against. You will re-elect Trump, and you’ll pretend the entire fucking time that you acted morally and it won’t be your fault when it happens. Then you’ll use your ass backward logic and say that the whole time it was Biden’s fault for personally and gleefully killing children, and secondarily it will be every single person’s fault who tried to caution you against this scorched Earth bullshit. Trump will destroy democracy and support Israel to the extreme and according to you it will be everyone’s fault besides yours, because blaming the millennia of conflict in the middle east on the somewhat sane candidate during an election year was the moral thing to do and completely worth the risk.

              You’re either myopic fucking fools or you’re campaigning for a fascist.

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                Its really easy to combine those two statements, I suggest a common conjunction. I find it hard to believe you don’t want the genocide, but I don’t think you want it. As in your actions indicate you do want it, but I think the underlying reason is different.

                Biden is actively participating. Every time the U.S. has blocked a measure to stop the genocide, skirted Congress to continue providing weapons, and pushed Israeli propoganda has been on him. Acting like he has to get down there and strangle someone himself before you count him as involved is fucking wild. When the governments of almost the entirety of the world agree to try and stop Israel and the US is the lone holdout that says a lot.

                or you’re campaigning for a fascist.

                You just can’t help yourself can you. Pathetic.

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                  Unless you’re a political scientist I don’t think you’re qualified to say what is and is not doable in something as complicated as a holy war that is in no way a new thing.

                  Are you one?

                  Pathetic.

                  I thought you were familiar with conjunctions…? You just self-identified as an ignorant fool, but want to claim you’re being unfairly characterized as a fascist. The choice was between the two, not that you’re both.

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          You know a lot of people really are as stupid as you take them to be, but many aren’t. What you’re doing here is obvious

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            Oh? what I am I doing? What’s the newest baseless accusation are you going to throw at me because I don’t like genocide?

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              People can see it, I’m not going to keep responding to someone who is quite obviously a bad faith actor.

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                You’ve said that before, but never miss an opportunity to lob abuse at anyone who opposes genocide.

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                  6 months ago

                  Yeah I get tired of seeing you sucking off trump via what you think is the perfect cover. Just one little problem you people think isn’t a big deal.

                  IT VERY OBVIOUS TRUMP IS FAR WORSE IN THIS RESPECT AND NONE OF YOUR CAMPAIGNING WILL EVER CHANGE THAT.

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                    IT VERY OBVIOUS TRUMP IS FAR WORSE IN THIS RESPECT

                    THAT’S WHY I’M VOTING FOR BIDEN.

                    I thought you said you weren’t going to respond to me anymore. Who could have foreseen that a pro-genocide centrist can’t be trusted to do what they say they will?