The rail union contract expires at the end of this year meaning the rail union workers can strike again sometime in 2025. Whoever wins the 2024 general election and becomes president will immediately have to deal with that possibility. If Biden is serious about how Trump is the biggest threat we face then promising to veto any attempts to force another contract onto the rail unions is a bargain.

Your move Joe. Are you willing to compromise with leftists or do you want to go down in history as the second establishment Democrat who lost to Donald Trump?

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    And if you could do that without enabling the deterioration of civil rights for women, ethnic minorities, and LGBTQIA people that’d be great, thanks.

    I mean, I’m not American so I don’t really have to care but still. There’s a time and place for protest votes, and this election isn’t it. Sure, Biden may not be perfect, but Trump literally said that he’d (try to, but considering the current supreme court…) be a dictator.

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      There’s a time and place for protest votes, and this election isn’t it.

      Every presidential election since 1992, the DNC have warned about it being “the most important election ever”, one that the country can’t afford for them to lose. It’ll never be time.

      Guess what else hasn’t changed since 1992?

      • the campaign strategy of the DNC
      • the legislative strategy of the DNC
      • the overall political philosophy of the DNC
      • the relationship between billionaire donors and their corporations and the DNC
      • the relationship between cops and the DNC
      • the attitude and behavior towards the Left of the DNC

      Guess what HAS changed since 1992?

      EVERYTHING FUCKING ELSE!

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      And if you could do that without enabling the deterioration of civil rights for women, ethnic minorities, and LGBTQIA people that’d be great, thanks.

      We don’t have the opportunity. People who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries made sure of that. One of the ways you could have helped avoid this situation was by shaming people for even considering voting for him in the primaries. There were much better options.

      There’s a time and place for protest votes, and this election isn’t it.

      I’ll forgive you since you’re not American but this is a deliberate strategy by the DNC and establishment democrats. They don’t want to compromise with leftists and they’re fine losing to fascists. It’s hard for people to accept but the reality is this: Biden is evil too.

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        You are why the right wins. You hold grudges against your own party.

        When Trump wins, it will be your fault not whatever reason you make up. You are responsible.

        This is the same stupid bullshit around petty grievance that allowed Trump to beat Hillary.

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          • Is it a big-tent party of unity, or not?
          • Does my voice matter, or not?
          • Do you care about my voice, or not?
          • If progressive/left wing voters are such a minority as to not be worth considering, then why get so twisted if they vote third party or sit it out?

          If the DNC wanted left coalitions or big-tent unity, they’d end FPTP elections and kill superdelegates. They can do both, but won’t try either. Bully coalition wings into unity every two years, then back to business as usual 😎

          Just quoting Milk-Sheik from above here. If they need leftists votes, then fucking earn them. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

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            It’s a party for adults, not childish greviances over subject matters you do not comprehend. Voting against the democrats because they don’t make a pointed statement about some specific union that you aren’t even a part of is exactly that.

            Grow up. The world is bigger than you. Progress requires sacrifice.

            If you want to be a self involved twat, there is already a party for that. They are voting for Trump.

            Stop pretending you’re a progressive if you aren’t voting for the only party that pushes for progress.

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              It’s a party for adults, not childish greviances over subject matters you do not comprehend.

              Alright then get all the adults together and elect Biden on your own. Ignore us children. What’s the problem?

              Progress requires sacrifice.

              What sacrifice did people make voting for Biden in the 2020 primaries?

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                No one under 50 wanted to vote for an old man but we did it anyway because that’s politics.

                Reading your comment history it is quite clear you’re here just to push this specific anti-democrat message of yours.

                There is a non-zero chance you are a sock puppet account paid to push uncertainty and doubt.

                Have fun on the front lines of world war three when Trump gets elected. The Russian meat machine will come for you.

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                  No one under 50 wanted to vote for an old man but we did it anyway because that’s politics.

                  So you want people under 50 to sacrifice for the people who voted for Biden in the primaries.

                  No. I refuse. Go scream at the people who voted for Biden in the primaries about sacrifice.

                  There is a non-zero chance you are a sock puppet account paid to push uncertainty and doubt.

                  It’s the internet buddy. That’s true of everybody.

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                    “Democracy Bad” - Average internet ‘leftist’ who is Totally Sincere You Guys

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          You hold grudges against your own party.

          I won’t vote for someone who’s going to pass legislation to block rail unions from striking in 2025. I know Trump will. I know Biden will unless he promises otherwise.

          This is the same stupid bullshit around petty grievance that allowed Trump to beat Hillary.

          Yes. It is. So what do you have to say about people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries? Did they think we were bluffing twice? Are they brain dead?

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            Seriously, I can not fathom why people want to try so hard to discourage a third party vote. Like if there were a year for say a Perot or Nader to shine it would be now because literally everyone hates both sides. It feels like these other posters can’t grasp that “enemy of my enemy is my friend” only runs so far especially when the best your “friend” can ever do is indifference and platitudes.

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              It feels like these other posters can’t grasp that “enemy of my enemy is my friend” only runs so far especially when the best your “friend” can ever do is indifference and platitudes.

              Or outright deliberate sabotage in the case of the rail strike. It was a rare situation where doing nothing would have been celebrated.