Let’s build a tower of nonsense on top of numbers we vibe with and pulled out of our ass

  • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systemsEnglish
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    1 year ago

    So let me get this straight.

    I’m unreasonable because I think there’s a less than a 1% chance of a machine god torture-simulating and/or grey-gooing everyone. But if some enlightened gentleman thought there was a 3% chance and was like “wait hold on guys let’s consider building the machine god anyway it sounds kind of neat” then that would be completely rational.

    Edit: this video is a lot more fun to watch if you mentally replace AI with a pack of adorable (and very well trained) puppy dogs.

  • curiousgene@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I just realized that some if these guys are cosplaying as mentats. They’re wanna-be Muad’Dibs. (Or maybe Muads’Dib.) They’ve got Herbertian brain worms in addition to their Heinleinian worms.

    • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I came to the same realisation about longtermists a couple months ago. They absolutely think they’re Leto II taking the hard decisions to implement the Golden Path. They are so fucking dunepilled.

  • sc_griffith@awful.systemsEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    as someone who was pretty involved in mtg as a youth it’s been disappointing to see people I admired (or in some cases - not this one - knew) drift rightward or into cults. but it feels absolutely bizarre to see one of them get niche famous for culting

      • carlitoscohones@awful.systemsEnglish
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        1 year ago

        In this case, yes. Today I learned that there is a Magic The Gathering Hall of Fame, and this guy Zvi is in it. Another weird coincidence is that the first big crypto exchange (MTGOX) was built on a Magic The Gathering website.

        I used to read this guy Liron on Twitter and interacted with him a little bit. He would sometimes seem logical, like when tearing apart crypto nonsense, but sometimes make dumb or disingenuous arguments like he does in this twitter thread.

  • blakestacey@awful.systemsMEnglish
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    1 year ago

    It’s not even “GIGO” with these people. “Garbage In, Garbage Out” implies that the process between input and output is legitimate at least. They’re not trying to make justifiable decisions in the face of incomplete information, or detect inconsistencies among their own beliefs, or anything of the sort. They’re just emitting math-shaped noises to bolster their own egos and further insulate their cult. They use language nominally about changing one’s beliefs in order to keep their own beliefs locked in place.

  • acausal_masochist@awful.systemsEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I am even more worried if you think that reducing things to single dimensions is a necessary prerequisite for making decisions about them!

    This is just the standard accepted way to make decisions. There being only one future to hypothesize about implies a one-dimensional quantity in the analysis.

    Never let me work with this person