I think it’s unfair to expect a people to just belly up and die because Jihadists are using their own people as human shields.
There have been over 7 times where the Palestinian people have had a chance to establish an actual state. They refused each and every time. So I’m struggling to see a parallel between what Israel is doing (defending its people) vs what you are suggesting.
The Palestinian people have had many many options to accept a two state solution and “be free”.
But they will never be free because their leaders only want the distruction of Israel and death of all jews. And, since the people and the rest of the world are intent on critisizing only Israel and making no moves towards freeing the Palestinian people from Hamas, they will NOT be free.
I’m tempering my response here considering it looks like this account is singularly focused on zionist agitprop, but this bit here:
And, since the people and the rest of the world are intent on critisizing[sic] only Israel and making no moves towards freeing the Palestinian people from Hamas, they will NOT be free.
sure sounds a lot like you’re attempting to justify genocide because people have rightly criticized Israel for brutality and indifference toward the [non-combatant] people of Gaza.
I can at least feel reassured that none of your fascistic and genocidal comments have gotten much support here. You should redirect your efforts elsewhere.
Ah. The genocide card.
It’s actually great when people bring that one up.
Please check these facts:
Palestinian population 1948: 1.37 million
Palestinian population 2023: 5.5 million in Israel, about 14.2 million world wide.
Here’s a meme concept for you, the one with the dog from rick and morty: “where’s the genocide summer?”
Btw, for real genocide:
Jewish population of europe before ww2: 9.5 million
Jewish population after ww2: 3.5 million
See how that works?
I’m Palestinian, grew up in a Palestinian family, went to lots of protests, “Kill all Jews” is not something people say out or appreciate. The problem is with Zionists, not Jew.
That being said, totally legal to march in Israel and chant “Death to all Arabs”
Yes, antisemitism exists. No, Palestinians as a collective don’t want to kill all Jews. The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement.
And no, I did not go to those protests, and if I did I would have spoken up about it and not let people chant such bullshit.
And no, I don’t go to mosques, I’m an atheist.
Ah yes and the antisemitism in books claim:
One religious studies textbook asks students to discuss the “repeated attempts by the Jews to kill the prophet” Muhammad and asks who are “other enemies of Islam.”
This is a historical event, regarding specifically the Jewish tribes near Mecca. That being said, fuck Mohammed and fuck Israel just the same.
A math text showed a picture of Palestinians hitting Israeli soldiers with slingshots to describe Newton’s second law of motion.
LOL. What is the issue exactly? Doesn’t say “Jews”, says specifically hitting an Israel soldier, as one should when all means of resistance have run out.
Another textbook “promotes a conspiracy theory that Israel removed the original stones of ancient sites in Jerusalem and replaced them with ones bearing “Zionist drawings and shapes.”
Yes, good example of antisemitism, haven’t double checked this though and don’t really know what it refers to 🤔 pretty sure Israel ruined all sorts of historical Palestinian sites anyway.
About Dalal Al Maghrebi, yeah, that’s bad, I agree, she should not be hailed as a hero.
The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement. - please show your proof.
And please don’t give me quotes from several outliers which unfortunately have been brought recently into the Israeli government.
They don’t represent the majority of Israel as apperantly the multitudes cheering in the streets while the October 7th hostiges were paraded through Gaza streets represent the people of Gaza.
That’s proof that there is a war on. No proof of any systematic killings.
Based on Palestinian reports there are about 20000 dead, no information of course on how many of them combatants.
So over the course of 3 months you have a less than 1 percent fatalities. I point you back to my meme and ask tou where’s the genocide.
In the ww2 bombing of dresden 25000 people were killed in just 4 attacks.
Israel is doing everything possible to kill only combatants. As I mentioned earlier it is impossible to avoid civilian deaths as they are being used as human shields. Military equipment is constantly being found in hospitals, mosques, schools and under childrens beds.
I think it’s unfair to expect a people to just belly up and die because Jihadists are using their own people as human shields. There have been over 7 times where the Palestinian people have had a chance to establish an actual state. They refused each and every time. So I’m struggling to see a parallel between what Israel is doing (defending its people) vs what you are suggesting.
This makes it sound like Israel’s existence depends on the Palestinian people NOT being free
What a coincidence, it does.
The Palestinian people have had many many options to accept a two state solution and “be free”. But they will never be free because their leaders only want the distruction of Israel and death of all jews. And, since the people and the rest of the world are intent on critisizing only Israel and making no moves towards freeing the Palestinian people from Hamas, they will NOT be free.
I’m tempering my response here considering it looks like this account is singularly focused on zionist agitprop, but this bit here:
sure sounds a lot like you’re attempting to justify genocide because people have rightly criticized Israel for brutality and indifference toward the [non-combatant] people of Gaza.
I can at least feel reassured that none of your fascistic and genocidal comments have gotten much support here. You should redirect your efforts elsewhere.
Ah. The genocide card. It’s actually great when people bring that one up. Please check these facts: Palestinian population 1948: 1.37 million Palestinian population 2023: 5.5 million in Israel, about 14.2 million world wide. Here’s a meme concept for you, the one with the dog from rick and morty: “where’s the genocide summer?”
Btw, for real genocide: Jewish population of europe before ww2: 9.5 million Jewish population after ww2: 3.5 million See how that works?
“Genocide”
Yes I’m posting this again
I’m Palestinian, grew up in a Palestinian family, went to lots of protests, “Kill all Jews” is not something people say out or appreciate. The problem is with Zionists, not Jew.
That being said, totally legal to march in Israel and chant “Death to all Arabs”
Ok. I assume you don’t live in Gaza. Because then you’d be learning antisemitism in school: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/eu-study-confirms-incitement-in-palestinian-textbooks
And I assume you don’t go to mosque because then you’d be hearing about gharqad
And probably didn’t attend these protests: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/death-to-the-jews-chants-heard-at-berlin-pro-palestinian-rally/amp/
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rjdkan0mp
Yes, antisemitism exists. No, Palestinians as a collective don’t want to kill all Jews. The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement.
And no, I did not go to those protests, and if I did I would have spoken up about it and not let people chant such bullshit.
And no, I don’t go to mosques, I’m an atheist.
Ah yes and the antisemitism in books claim:
This is a historical event, regarding specifically the Jewish tribes near Mecca. That being said, fuck Mohammed and fuck Israel just the same.
LOL. What is the issue exactly? Doesn’t say “Jews”, says specifically hitting an Israel soldier, as one should when all means of resistance have run out.
Yes, good example of antisemitism, haven’t double checked this though and don’t really know what it refers to 🤔 pretty sure Israel ruined all sorts of historical Palestinian sites anyway.
About Dalal Al Maghrebi, yeah, that’s bad, I agree, she should not be hailed as a hero.
The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement. - please show your proof. And please don’t give me quotes from several outliers which unfortunately have been brought recently into the Israeli government. They don’t represent the majority of Israel as apperantly the multitudes cheering in the streets while the October 7th hostiges were paraded through Gaza streets represent the people of Gaza.
>They don’t represent the majority of Israel
but they do represent the actual government
Yes. This is a bad government. Is that a reason for the atrocities of oct 7?
Everything on the news today. That’s proof.
That’s proof that there is a war on. No proof of any systematic killings. Based on Palestinian reports there are about 20000 dead, no information of course on how many of them combatants. So over the course of 3 months you have a less than 1 percent fatalities. I point you back to my meme and ask tou where’s the genocide. In the ww2 bombing of dresden 25000 people were killed in just 4 attacks. Israel is doing everything possible to kill only combatants. As I mentioned earlier it is impossible to avoid civilian deaths as they are being used as human shields. Military equipment is constantly being found in hospitals, mosques, schools and under childrens beds.