• Decoy321@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Either you all are being intentionally disingenuous, or you’re significantly misinformed. There’s a difference between passive support of a ally doing terrible things and actively starting a war yourself and doing terrible things.

    Did you all suddenly forget about Ukraine?

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      1 year ago

      Honest question, is funnelling them money still passive support? I understand aid for Ukraine defending their soil, but I’m not ok with sending my money to help Israel do a genocide.

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        Thanks for being sincere. I only used the term passive in the sense that we’re not sending our own troops over to actively participate. I agree with you on the money transfer issue. I also consider it noteworthy that a lot of the legislation for Israel financial support not only excludes support for Ukraine, but requires the funds to be diverted from useful domestic purposes.

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      Almost as if it’s in some countries’ interests for people to get distracted from following the war in Ukraine until Trump gets elected and that some people are deliberately using the situation in Gaza to do just that.

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      “Passive support for genocide” 🤨

      It ain’t even passive though, where do you think they are getting all the money and equipment??

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        I’ll concede this point. I meant in the sense that we’re not sending American troops over there. But I’ll concede I could be wrong on that too.

        I’m not going to defend any support in any scale, regardless.

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        1 year ago

        Ah yes, let’s deflect from my point entirely. Such good faith conversation on your part.

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            1 year ago

            My point is that you’re making a false equivalency by comparing the two and just saying they’re both bad. Adding Trudeau to the mix doesn’t change that. Sure, you can compare him to Biden, but comparing both to Putin is disingenuous.

            It’s like saying a papercut and a severed artery are both bad. One is significantly worse than the other.

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            1 year ago

            Who did you serve with Ukraine? Where and when did you serve? Can you describe your station from memory?

            STOLEN VALOR