• jimmydoreisalefty
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    This is a win for the status quo bloods and crips.

    To me, there is a lot to bash Musk on, but the twitter files confirmed and should have enlightened many of the problems we currently have with politicians/media/corporations being in bed with each other.

    This seems similar to the Russiagate stories pushed by legacy media.

    Smearing opposition of the status quo, then once the population believes the lies, the truth starts to comes out years later by MSM journalists.

    I make mistakes and I am willing to learn, so please if anyone can articulate and explain in detail?

    Why all the baseless hate against Musk, while we already know enough about how he treats his workers to be against him. No need to be hostile or to lie when talking about him.

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      Why all the baseless hate against Musk

      Well, you managed one of many reasons yourself…

      we already know enough about how he treats his workers to be against him.

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        Yes, but this article seems to be a smear of MSM.

        Due to not siding with Israel and instead talking of ceasefire or peace, same with Ukraine/Russia.

        Looking at the talk he had with Lex Fridman.

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          “Not siding with Israel” is much different than using the largest social media account in the world to post Nazi-baiting comments and imply that Jewish people are ruining America. Most of what Elon is actually saying about Jewish people is entirely unrelated to the current conflict in the middle East.

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        Did you not read all of my response.

        Consistency is required when looking at the problems we have.

        This is happenong to Musk, but the same happens to people on the left.

        Smears happen without proof, just for going against the status quo.

        This seems to be a smear for not siding with Israel, and calling for peace.

        Your response does not help make your point, it does the opposite.

        I am not sure what you are trying to get across.

        Reminds me of Trump derangement syndrome.

        Again, we have enough to bash Musk as is, no need to lie or make up things.

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            Yes, that may be so.

            That is why I commented, to educate myself on what I did not know, and what I thought it was about.

            People that know or are confident in opposing what I say will hopefully teach me a different point of view.

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              Yeah right, as if anybody parroting your trumptard garbage is looking to “learn the truth”

              Russian collusion with Trump is real, several of his employees went to prison over it. Then he pardoned them. Then he continued to publicly kiss Putin’s ass even while trashing the American military and intelligence agencies.

              Trump lost the 2020 election and failed to present any tangible evidence of widespread election fraud causing the vast majority of his legal cases to fail. He had his day in court about that and lost as hard as possible.

              Then he incited the 2021 insurrection purely out of his own hubris from being a sore loser, and now he’s on trial for that and will be going to prison.

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            It seems you pointed something out, but failed to explain your thought process.

            What did I miss?

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              That no one is making up a) his glowing endorsement of an antisemitic tweet and b) that advertisers have had their ads show up next to antisemitic (and otherwise racist) tweets, which is not a look many brands want to go with. We don’t have to make this shit up; it’s just what ol’ musky does. And if it walks like an antisemite, and it quacks like an antisemite…

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              Not my responsibility to explain what you don’t understand. That’s a right wing tactic to try and make people explain each nitpicky bit

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          What do you mean without proof? Did you see the post the Musk said “is absolute truth”. Even Musk is not denying that that happened.

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          Trump derangement syndrome is where a person believes that Trump can do no wrong, is exceptionally strong and intelligent, and has been anointed by god to save the world from liberal vermin. It is rampant on twitter and among musk fanatics.

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            Twitter files shows a direct line of gov’t censorship on certain topics in social media.

            These also includes our alphabet agencies in this censorship.

            Many like to watch debates on such topics, I am one that does.

            I assume you don’t like such videos, so that is my bad.

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                Video is a debate, so it would require to make time for it or to treat as podcast and listen while on the move.

                I do not agree with Musk.

                Have a great day!

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      I read these threads for the butthurt responses from the muskovites. They never disappoint.

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      Russia interfered and still interferes with our elections. This is an objective fact.

      This alternative facts stuff is out of control and you really should take a step back and assess how far off base you are.

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        It seems to me, that you don’t know too much about Russiagate.

        It is calling out a specific set of things.

        Not just a blanket statement that foreign interference in countries does not happen.

        Please explain your understanding of the importance of Russiagate, either pro/con or neutral stance.

        I am trying to understand your thinking process, as well.

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          I’m not writing a dissertation to address every conceivable thing you want covered. If you want to defend one of the myriad of absurd conspiracy theories the right pushes to obfuscate reality then you can put it forward yourself.

          This is flagrant sealioning. You are trying to pretend you’re open minded and “just seeking understanding” but everything about your previous comment contradicts this. You’ve made up your mind and you’re putting on a show. I am not going to participate.