• LazyBane@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I hear of people getting stabbed like atleast once every two weeks lol.

    Gun kill more people at once, which makes bigger headlines, but desperate people are still doing horrible things becuase of a lack of safety nets.

    Other than the immediate body count, the only difference is how easy it is to ignore.

    Edit: I’m not saying gun control won’t stop gun violence. Pretending that the metal health doesn’t play a role in why people trapped in a bad situation end up doing drastic things is just wrong.

    It just gives those in power an excuse to ignore how societal deficits harm people, and it doesn’t really convey a convincing argument for gun control. It comes off as if you think gun control will fix everything, when it just make gun violence exclusively less prevalent.

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      1 year ago

      What are the mortality rates of those two weapons?

      Disclaimer: I looked it up quickly and haven’t read a lot.

      But from what I see, it’s far more likely to survive stabbing wounds than gunshot wounds. See, e.g., the collection of sources here: https://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/1997/02/24/knives-00006

      So even if there were a similar amount of attacks using knives instead of guns (which isn’t the case as others pointed out), then guns would still be worse.

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        1 year ago

        Yes gun kill more, but we don’t really have to stop at killing less people.

        And the key to having even less people killed than just an effective gun control policy alone, is acknowledging that mental health does actually play a part. In a well functioning society people aren’t driven to mass murder to begin with.

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          1 year ago

          Fundamentally I agree with you. Raising people who are mature enough to handle guns as well as other dangerous things in a responsible way would be ideal and would make restrictive laws superfluous. We currently see a similar process regarding cannabis laws in several western nations.
          However, since we are far from having these necessary circumstances, more restrictive gun control laws are useful to save lives and prevent psychological damage. Meanwhile sure, go ahead and educate people.

          Realistically, I currently don’t expect that we will have one day a society where we can trust each and every individual that much. This is why I think such laws will always be nececssary.

          Apart from that, I don’t see a reason why anyone should posses tools, which are specifically designed to be efficient at killing, for private reasons. I could make an exception for sports. But why would any private person want or need a killing tool?

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      1 year ago

      Saying guns are fine because knives also kill is such a brain dead argument.

      Knife crime is still higher in the US per capita compared to the UK (the country often used in knife crime comparisons)…