• LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
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        Which itself is a valid philosophy. I might not believe in it, I personally think you cannot afford to be pacifist in a world that is willing to use violence against you. But I’d much rather sit with a pacifist (or someone else who has a philosophy I don’t believe in, yet can understand) than a racist.

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          Thankfully you don’t have to choose! You could instead sit with the people eager to actively fight against racism instead of making up excuses to let thrive

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            1. If I only ever wanted to be around people who have my own, objectively right opinions, I would be alone all the time

            2. Not willing to use violence at all is, in my opinion, a valid opinion. One I do not share, because, as I said, the world is inherently violent.

            3. Given the choice, I much rather work/be around/support people who agree with me on the basics.

            4. This is the classic problem of the left: if you are not part of my specific part of the movement, you are barely better than a racist. I have happily stood in a protest beside people who have a very different view (eg. Christians who take “love your neighbour” serious and communists who believe that we need a oppressive government to enforce their utopia), yet agree on the basics (racism bad).

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          No we don’t. A blanket “violence bad” philosophy is protecting those who do violence to others. Sometimes violence is necessary and this fact needs to be understood by everyone. Especially with the way things are. Some people can’t be reasoned with.

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            This needs to be written across the sky in flaming letters. (Along with “Be excellent to each other”.)

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      “As an apolitical centrist, I think punching a member of the KKK is just as bad as the KKK lynching innocent people. Violence is always bad.