Soon after Hamas announced it had accepted a ceasefire proposal, Israel responded by heavily bombing Gaza, killing children dressed for the Eid holiday, and preparing further ground invasions.
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Oh look a bunch of people from hexbear astroturfing. We get it, you folks are all boned up about Trump and are stoked for this genocide. No need to pretend like your aggressive campaigning for Trump wasnāt hugely successful.
The question isnāt āwhat would Harris have done differentlyā, we have no idea what she would have done here, but we do know that she publicly advocated for restraint and a two state solution. Trump is publicly advocating for this final solution.
The question you should be asking is āAll things being equal on this issue, which candidate is better on the other important issuesā? You asked yourselves this and decided that Trump was better on LGBTQ rights, minority rights, freedom of press and speech, labor rights, health care, the economy, the environment, and everything else.
Congratulations tankies, you got your widespread unrestrained genocide.
We literally have people on hb from gaza who fundraise and we donate to them. What crack are you smoking where we advocate for trump and cheerlead palestinian genocide??
They are mad 99.9999999999% hitler lost and 100% hitler won. Oh boy genocidal zionist candidate vs genocidal zionist candidate, I love voooooting for the lesser evil.
So mad they just make shit up:
i know itās difficult for liberals to remember anything further back then two SNLs ago, but we actually already had a widespread unrestrained genocide under biden
Hey so I know this is just bad faith projection from someone who canāt accept that they threw away their humanity supporting a doomed fascist ethnostate. I know that. So rather than dignify your childlike ego protection with a similar response, allow me to highlight a concrete reality instead:
While you sit there, totally unable to accept your culpability in arguing for the realpolitik ānecessityā of ethnic cleansing, spinning soothing tales to revise history and absolve yourself, lashing out at those who donāt entertain them, tankies are putting their lives on the line to stop the genocide you voted for.
Fortunately, unlike the liberal āResistanceā, these antifascists wonāt immediately fold and become an entire party of enthusiastic collaborators the moment an opportunity presents itself.
Just because someone is against Harris/the Democrats does not automatically mean they are in support of Trump/the Republicans. This might come as a surprise to you, but we hate Trump and the GOP, too. Weāre just not under any illusions that the Democrats are going to fix anything.
Link a single comment from Hexbear showing support for this genocide you lying fucking worm.
Iām a lib but I want to have a dialogue thatās less shit throwing and more genuine.
Agreed.
Not a surprise, totally know that and appreciate you guys for it.
So neither am I, but I feel frustrated because we need to be protesting and making noise on this issue.
Its frustrating because our shared goal is to end the genocide, but you guys by staying home that election sabotaged this goal for us both and made the genocide worse than before.
If you focus on the material conditions of Gaza and think āwhich vote is going to lead to less Gazan lives lostā voting for Kamala seemed like a no brainer.
Itās only when you bring your own ego into it āwell I will never support genocideā that comes across like youāre willing to sacrifice Gazan lives to feel self righteous about your values.
Had many of these tankies voted Kamala instead of staying home it would be so mucy easier to form a protest and get the pressure cooking on the dems
But because they stayed home (regardless of justification you might have) weāve now lost the right to protest and many university students, scientists and academics are being disappeared into the night for speaking out.
This simply would not have happened under Kamala.
Democrats lost all on their own by pretending the economy was fine despite everyone clearly noticing it was not, and continuing to double down on supporting a deeply unpopular genocide. There are by far not enough ātankiesā in the US to sway an election like that. If we had that kind of power weād be pushing our own party instead. 90 million people didnāt vote in 2024, what are a couple thousand at most terminally online leftists compared to that?
The genocide was already bad under Democrats. No, we didnāt forget that Genocide Joe sent Israel hundreds of shipments of weapons and supported them full-heartedly in their slaughter of the Palestinian people.
Voting for Democrats would not have lead to fewer Gazan lives lost, because the Democrats donāt give a fuck about Gazan lives. Biden was already giving them all the weapons they needed, and Harris made no indication she was going to change course. Harris would have enabled the genocide same as Trump.
My god please take a step back and look at yourself. Examine your views and have an ounce of introspection.
So what protests are you going to? What are you doing to put pressure on the Dems?
Leftists did not cost the Democrats the election, Democrats just suck. Harris got 68 million votes in 2024 to Bidenās 81 million.
It was already happening under Biden, you were just content to ignore it.
Yes they did, and theyāre to blame for terrible messaging and gatekeeping democracy to force Kamala as the candidate without voter input.
The Democrats dropped a candy bar on the ground and Trump shit on the floor. They then asked what I wanted for dinner.
While I blame the democrats for dropping the candy on the ground, I blame voters for not voting against poo.
OP threw out tankie as a bad faith term and we just kept using it
I assume when we say ātankiesā weāre using the term as OP originally did, ie anyone who abstained from voting for Kamala because they donāt support genocide?
Those are the people Iām talking about, not terminally online people.
Yes. Joe was sending weapons to aid the genocide. Thatās terrible and no excuse.
In light of comparing him to Trump though, Biden tried to set up a dock to distribute aid to Gazans when Israel tried to block it and continually threatened to stop sending these weapons if Israel bombed certain regions or were undertaking operations with crazy high civilian casualties.
Trumpās policy is ālet them bombā and deporting people who disagree.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
Okay, thatās a genuine argument if true.
I just am shocked youād say that. I already demonstrated that Democrats care at least slightly more than Trump. Do you need a source for Biden providing aid and pressuring for Israel to deescalate while also funding them?
I have, but I agree I should continue doing so going forward.
It is important to think hard on our values and that goes both ways.
So first of all, thereās now the unfortunate truth that because of voters staying home it is now more dangerous to protest than it needed to be and could come at great personal risk, especially to non citizens.
Thatās not an excuse not to protest, but it is hypocritical of you guys to cause it to be much more risky to protest by allowing Trump to win and then try to blame others for not taking the risk.
Iām in Canada so Im not sure how to effectovely protest US politics from here.
I am boycotting American goods, and I have a recurring donation to the food bank to help bring aid to Gazans and other starving people.
In terms of Canadian politics, our government put an arms embargo on Israel so we arenāt supposed to be funding them but as of 3 days ago apparently that promise is broken so going forward thatās an open question.
If your point is that I could do more, youāre certainly right. Iāll think on that.
Yeah, they threw the election seemingly on purpose because transitionary president Biden who we already voted in as the lesser of two evils just to stop Trumpās second term decided he would take up space and prevent new candidates from stepping forward.
Iām not content to ignore it, it wasnāt happening.
Show me 3 examples of university students having their green card revoked for attending a protest under Bidens administration and I will apologize.
Why can Democrats only offer candy bars for dinner when we need fresh fruits, vegetables, and actual healthy foods? The Democrats either donāt know the right way to govern, or they know but they donāt care. Do either of those options sound like a party that anyone should vote for?
āTankiesā doesnāt mean anything, itās a vibes word for āsomeone to the left of me I donāt like.ā And most of the people who didnāt vote in 2024 arenāt leftist, because the American populace just isnāt.
I did not vote Democrat in 2024 because the Democrats are not entitled to my vote by pretending to be less awful than the other team. I did not vote Democrat anywhere on the ticket because I refuse to be complicit in genocide. That is the hard moral line I am taking. There is no excuse for genocide.
Note that at no point did he stop sending weapons, the one action he could have taken at any time to actually stop the extermination. He did not want the genocide to stop.
And the dock was a waste of money that was never going to accomplish anything. Everyone knew that the whole time.
Evidently Bidenās policy was also ālet them bomb,ā as evidenced by the at least 14,000 tons of bombs he sent Netanyahu. And Biden deported more people than Trump 1. The terror is bipartisan and always has been.
I donāt need a source to know that if he wanted to deescalate he could have just stopped sending them weapons at any time.
We ācaused itā? We āallowed Trump to winā? Who do you think your audience is? Nobody here voted for Trump. Unless youāre equating ānot voting for Harrisā with āvoting for Trumpā which is just baby-brained nonsense. The only thing thatās a vote for Trump is a vote for Trump.
Ok no arguments here. Legitimately way more useful than voting.
No
Corporate interests in politics. You and me donating to our favored candidates is nothing compared to the big money and lobbyists mega corporations are throwing around.
Democrats canāt offer fresh fruit because the chocolate lobby is funding the chocolafe democrat in the fruit democrats district.
Itās not any one partyās fault. Itās a systemic issue. People who donāt actually represent voters are being given disproportionately amount of money to run campaigns because they represent businesses.
That being said I donāt know if we should be looking at party as a whole but also who the candidates are.
If we pushed more progressive candidates like AOC who do call out Israel and show up to primaries we can steer the party to a more reasonable direction while realizing the 2 party system is broken and needs fixing.
I dont see how disengaging entirely from electoralism helps.
You got to keep your āmoral lineā but if it was at the cost of worse material conditions in Gaza and means Gazans got more bombs and their aid and rights watch groups defunded then Iām not sure I agree that was worth it.
Your suggestion that the material conditions of Gaza under Kamala would have been equally bad doesnāt feel very convincing.
And thatās not even mentioning the genocide in Ukraine. Biden was at least on the right side of that, Trump is certainly not.
I only brought that up because it seemed at that time you were trying to accuse me of not doing enough by asking how many protests I go to.
Iām saying that if you chose not to vote against fascism, itās unfair to blame the people who did for not protesting now that itās way more dangerous and they might be abducted, tortured and deported for doing so.
Had Kamala won there would be much less fear of protesting against her government.
You guys didnāt cause it per se, but you still canāt seem to agree that a fascist is worse than a neoliberal and I just donāt get whatās not obvious about that.
There ya go. Then I will continue to insist that the abduction and systematic targeting of students and academics on grounds of āwokenessā wasnāt happening under Biden.
Context: https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/iran-uhhh-kamala-harris-running-mate-tim-walz-confuses-israel-with-iran-us-vice-presidential-debate-jd-vance-11727836005425.html
So the actual argument here is that despite all context, despite the question being about support for Isreal, despite what he said being perfectly cogent and despite his being immediately pulled back from public view by and angry DNCā¦despite all of this, he must have actually been talking about Iran, because he said āproxiesā and thatās a propaganda term we use for Iran, sooā¦he must have just meant to talk about Iran in this answer about supporting Israel for some reason. Thatās the actual and only argument of this piece: word association
You must just not have read it, right? Thereās no way you would link me the war propaganda equivalent of this ā¦
ā¦if you knew in advance how utterly craven and hollow it was. Or maybe you didnāt expect anyone else to read it?
You expect me to believe that Tim Walz was trying to say something that didnt make any fucking sense, and accidentally flubbed his way into saying something that does make sense and lines up with the US governmentās actual deeds? Furthermore, you expect me to believe this was just a meaningless flub despite the party being so mad about it that they never let him do a speech or debate after that? Be real here, what does Occamās Razor say?
You are praising the fine stitching of the emperorās clothes. I am looking at an imperial penis.
Youāre so unbelievably stupid to say this, it has to be denial and guilt.
Soulless lib.
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