We have yet another example of the conservatives having only short term gain and quick profits on their mind. Turner and the liberals were right when they said that we have been building this country east to west for a century plus, and that we should have continued doing so. And now we are seeing Turner’s predictions coming true, and a conservative sold us the fuck out and took the easy way Instead of nation building.

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    Her opponent was Donald Trump. That’s it. That’s the reason.

    JFC, no, no it isn’t. This is exactly the point I’m making, this is exactly the reason kamala lost. The majority of the population doesn’t give a shit about politics and is uninformed and they dont bother understanding the political landscape.

    If you run a campaign on ‘im not them’ and ‘i wont fix any of the things that are negatively impacting your life’ you will lose. Never mind demonstrating that you’re willing to fucking murder an entire people.

    Why? because people are going to say ‘well both candidate suck, not going to bother with either’

    Then you have the other candidate claiming to they’ll fix the price of eggs (even if they wont) and at least they’re addressing issues impacting you.

    Facts:

    • the majority of the populace has never interacted with transgendered individuals they do not understand them
    • the majority dont care about the struggles of LGBT+ community. they think the country is inclusive enough and live and let live.
    • the majority of americans constantly suffer from abuses by corporate groups via denied health claims, price gouging, over working their employees.

    Running around saying ‘i’m not my opponent, and I will do nothing to help you but i’ll do this other thing that costs corporate american nothing and impacts maybe 2 million people’ is a fucking recipe for disaster.

    This is why kamala was missing 20 million votes. not because she was black, not because she was female, but because she offered nothing for people to show up to vote for her and the democrats despite massive systemetic problems our country is currently facing. When your major policy announcement is lol weed something the majority of the country already has easy access too people will just yawn and stay home.

    If you’re Canadian reading this thread: Do. not. be. this. person. demand your candidates improve your lives. do not think that simply not being the other person will win.

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      I 100% agree with you. What a lot of Kamala voters don’t realize is that there were a lot of people who WANTED to vote for Trump. They weren’t voting for Trump because he wasn’t Kamala, they were actually motivated to get out and vote for their guy. Kamala didn’t even try anything to get people to come vote for her other than, “I’m not Trump.” Learn a goddamn lesson Democrats.

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      JFC, no, no it isn’t. This is exactly the point I’m making, this is exactly the reason kamala lost. The majority of the population doesn’t give a shit about politics and is uninformed and they dont bother understanding the political landscape.

      In that case, it didn’t matter who the Democratic nominee was, Trump would have won.

      If “being a literal fascist” isn’t enough to motivate someone to vote for the only other candidate, then it doesn’t matter who this other candidate actually was. Trump would still be the victor.

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        Child, most voting americans dont know wtf fascism even fucking means.

        Stop thinking you can wave the word around have it make your argument for you. Kamala could gave easily won if she made an strong case for how she was going to improve peoples lives at home and not make people feel like they were contributing to genocidal slaughter.

        But she decided to continue gaslighting during her campaign just like she did as VP and as a congress critter. People notice these things.

        Trump is a mess people like yourself have made by being completely fucking blind to the reality around you.

        The voters for trump fucking like trump.

        Many voters for democrats hate the fucking Democrats.

        What you need to understand is that voters dont have a short memory, but they do encode information as vague emotional recollections.

        When harris has a history of fucking the american workers over they remember the feeling of betrayal and annoyance if not the specific actions.

        When harris decided to put non violent criminals in jail as an AG, people remember.

        When harris decided to back track on healthcare, people remember.

        When harris decided to let minimum wage increase die because of an unelected, non binding individuals opinion, people remember.

        When harris decided to attempt to gaslight the entire American people about bidens mental acuity, people remember.

        Trump would have easily been beaten if harris came out with a fucking backbone and a hard on for restoring the working class’ economic well being.

        She decided to continue gaslighting and doubling down on genocide. And people remember.

        And finally harris wasnt the only other candidate available. Stop spouting that nonsense like it somehow matters. Esp given 20 million people didnt even fucking show up and vote.

        Now, unless you have something actually useful to say kindly fuck off we both have better things to do.

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          Child, most voting americans dont know wtf fascism even fucking means.

          In that case Trump would have won no matter the Democratic nominee. All Trump had to do was state “price of eggs” and win.

          Stop thinking you can wave the word around have it make your argument for you. Kamala could gave easily won if she made an strong case for how she was going to improve peoples lives at home and not make people feel like they were contributing to genocidal slaughter.

          And now they get to feel like that they’re contributing harder to genocidal slaughter, annexing three countries, and let Ukraine be annexed by Russia. Good job to them. Granted:

          The majority of the population doesn’t give a shit about politics and is uninformed and they dont bother understanding the political landscape.

          so they might not realize anyway.

          Trump is a mess people like yourself have made by being completely fucking blind to the reality around you.

          Last I checked I’m Canadian, so no.

          The voters for trump like fucking trump.

          Many voters for democrats hate the fucking Democrats.

          In that case Trump would have won no matter the Democratic nominee.

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          Typically, when editing a comment, you should probably state that you made one. Everything after “Many voters for democrats hate the fucking Democrats.” was added after I made my comment.
          You could have easily made the comment afterwards a reply to my other one.