• frezik@midwest.social
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    12 hours ago

    People used to enjoy anime and MST3k episodes on fifth generation VHS copies. Crypto is worse than that.

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      8 hours ago

      People used to enjoy anime and MST3k episodes on fifth generation VHS copies.

      As a general rule, I prefer getting torrent links from friends in a Discord stream over huffing it over to a Blockbuster and hoping their single copy of “My Neighbor Totoro” isn’t checked out. You can make the case for a better brighter tech future.

      Just don’t put half your paycheck into “TotoroCoin” because its trending on pump.fun

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      10 hours ago

      You know why vhs quality degraded with every generation of copy? It wasn’t an accident or a technical problem, it was deliberate.

      They want to discourge people from copying their tapes, so there was a mechanism in the VCR to actually cause some drop in quality when you taped something.

      This is why TV tapings of a movie would never be as good as buying/renting the same movie from a store. Even if you used a virgin tape.

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        9 hours ago

        No, it was really a technical issue. Analog signals are very prone to noise, and noise is cumulative. Even the best recording heads are going to pick up stray magnetic fields, and of course you get the typical cosmic ray noise hitting the recording tape and head, and then there’s noise in power lines that also contribute to the noise.

        Basically, what you don’t get to hear anymore causes it: Tune an older radio to somewhere between stations. The static exists all the time. If it didn’t, it would just be no noise at all, rather than static. Same with older, analog TVs: You see snow and hear static. That’s all environmental noise, which will impact analog recording medium. Even the source side of the house gets that noise introduced. That’s what Signal-to-noise ratio means: How much signal, vs how much noise exists.

        So, dupe of a dupe of a dupe… All recording noise.

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          7 hours ago

          It’s also quality of the tape and how we used it. You could buy a tape and use it for 2, 4, or 6 hours with a tradeoff in quality. Blank tapes were rather expensive, so we all used 6 hours and then copied from there.

          Commercially produced VHS tapes also tended to be higher quality than blank tapes, unless you went out of your way to buy the quality ones.

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          8 hours ago

          And it still happens even with digital technology. If you, say, rotate a .jpg file a few thousand times, the image will start to degrade as it doesn’t perfectly copy over everything and the very slight losses start to add up.

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            7 hours ago

            Somewhat different issue there. JPEG compression is lossy. It doesn’t happen on a BMP. Though you can probably link the two up with underlying information theory.

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        10 hours ago

        However the original quality was so shit you don’t really notice.

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          9 hours ago

          Prior to true HD home media we really didn’t know any better. I grew up in Dubai and the Disney Aladdin film was actually banned there, but not before some pirated copies came out. That pirated tape was really poor quality but I didn’t notice or care. Seeing the 1080p, however, totally blew my mind.

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            3 hours ago

            Same thing with a refresh of all the stuff I pirated as a kid. Woof SD is baaad. I have to feel our imaginations used to be better?