Authoritarians and tech CEOs now share the same goal: to keep us locked in an eternal doomscroll instead of organizing against them, Janus Rose writes.
On this server we are often victim of this stuff, i hope we can all improve
The 50501 protests have mostly been organized through Social media
Are they working?
is any protest or rally or general strike working? to me looks like they became just another thing
in the past they probably worked because the threat of violence was real, now it’s just walking together mostly. If you don’t undermine their comforts or their money you can have as many people in the street you want but that’s not gonna do anything if it’s just showing up once and bye
I can’t predict what the outcome will be. It might fizzle out, or it might gather momentum and produce a result.
We’ve already seen that it seems to be effecting Tesla’s stock price. I think either way it’s important for people to see others openly defying all this, if only to prevent the chilling effect that Germany seemed to go through by the lack of visible resistance to the Nazis.
imho, you are too deep down into the path to fascism right now. Stock prices won’t change the plan of becoming Russia 2.0. Don’t need capial market value when you have de facto slaves, oligarch power and isolationist economy.
btw i was talking about “protest or rally or general strike” in general, not only US. In italy they have not much value anymore. Indefinite strikes (i mean “we strike until you give us what you want”) and focussed strikes (as in one single company) are the ones that work. + all the little stuff that won’t make headlines or virality on social media because ‘‘person convinced their whole department that that thing was bad and they fixed it’’ is not cool enough
I’m not trying to suggest that we’ll fix anything by lowering the stock price of Tesla, I’m just pointing out that it does seem to be having some measurable effect despite how low the turnouts have been for these protests in comparison to Trump’s first term.
Don’t need capial market value when you have de facto slaves, oligarch power and isolationist economy.
Ehh, I can’t say I agree with that. If the economy plummets, it would likely help to turn his base against Trump, which as much as I hate having to exist within this economic framework at all, would be a useful thing to happen. Even in Russia, the oligarch’s grasp on their power is largely determined by their ability to continue their economic prosperity. If they can’t pay the army/police, their tools to control the people are weakened tremendously.
Obviously the U.S. is nowhere near not being able to make those payments currently, but putting the hurt on the US economically, especially if a general strike were to happen as the rest of the world Tariffed us for a sustained period of time, would either force the government to capitulate or violently end the strike, which I can’t imagine would end well for the government.
Are they working?
is any protest or rally or general strike working? to me looks like they became just another thing
in the past they probably worked because the threat of violence was real, now it’s just walking together mostly. If you don’t undermine their comforts or their money you can have as many people in the street you want but that’s not gonna do anything if it’s just showing up once and bye
I can’t predict what the outcome will be. It might fizzle out, or it might gather momentum and produce a result.
We’ve already seen that it seems to be effecting Tesla’s stock price. I think either way it’s important for people to see others openly defying all this, if only to prevent the chilling effect that Germany seemed to go through by the lack of visible resistance to the Nazis.
imho, you are too deep down into the path to fascism right now. Stock prices won’t change the plan of becoming Russia 2.0. Don’t need capial market value when you have de facto slaves, oligarch power and isolationist economy.
btw i was talking about “protest or rally or general strike” in general, not only US. In italy they have not much value anymore. Indefinite strikes (i mean “we strike until you give us what you want”) and focussed strikes (as in one single company) are the ones that work. + all the little stuff that won’t make headlines or virality on social media because ‘‘person convinced their whole department that that thing was bad and they fixed it’’ is not cool enough
I’m not trying to suggest that we’ll fix anything by lowering the stock price of Tesla, I’m just pointing out that it does seem to be having some measurable effect despite how low the turnouts have been for these protests in comparison to Trump’s first term.
Ehh, I can’t say I agree with that. If the economy plummets, it would likely help to turn his base against Trump, which as much as I hate having to exist within this economic framework at all, would be a useful thing to happen. Even in Russia, the oligarch’s grasp on their power is largely determined by their ability to continue their economic prosperity. If they can’t pay the army/police, their tools to control the people are weakened tremendously.
Obviously the U.S. is nowhere near not being able to make those payments currently, but putting the hurt on the US economically, especially if a general strike were to happen as the rest of the world Tariffed us for a sustained period of time, would either force the government to capitulate or violently end the strike, which I can’t imagine would end well for the government.