While tens of thousands of people have joined Facebook groups in Sweden and Denmark calling for no longer buying American, Norwegian company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced that it will stop supplying US military vessels with fuel.
  • humourme@lemmy.caEnglish
    15·
    2 days ago

    can you imagine if the movement that we are experiencing in canada takes place all over europe? that would be huge

    • imvii@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      10·
      2 days ago

      I think it will. China has announced sanctions on particular US companies. I’d like to see more of that on Trump-positive businesses.

  • Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    24·
    2 days ago

    Support your local breweries and buy their sodas and not coca cola <3 I do this and ngl Oettinger cola-mix and Riegele Spezi are amazing

        • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          2 days ago

          I think the point is, go even further and stop. Of course they want it, those who buy it. Once I stopped drinking sugar drinks, they started tasting really bad when I tried them once in a while. Started preferring natural juices instead. Love my juices. Still sugary, but less processed.

    • huzzahunimpressively@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      As a mexican I can say that this will be really hard, mexicans love so much Coke btw we have popular alternatives like red cola, but I’ve only seen masons consume that product

      • useyourvoice@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        it won’t be hard when you understand that USA is selling you on their diseased junk just to profit off of you. We need to wake up to the fact that they are not selling us good products. They are selling us JUNK with no government oversight that is now full of GOD KNOWS WHAT just to keep it cheap, and turn a profit at the expense of your health and hard earned money.

    • Teknikal@eviltoast.orgEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Trouble with that in the UK is Coca-cola is the only soft drink really that hasn’t bowed to the sugar tax and changed their recipe to be full of artificial sweeteners.

      I absolutely can’t stand the taste of these sweeteners and some even make me feel kinda of bad after drinking them.

      • KumaSudosa@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        Idk if it has even spread to England but when I lived in Scotland I only ever bought Irn-Bru

        • Teknikal@eviltoast.orgEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          Sorry to tell you but irn bru went from god tier to pour down the toilet tier.

          They did try to pull it back with 1911 version but it’s nowhere as good as it was before the sugar tax and completely uncarbonated and priced like it’s liquid gold.

        • Teknikal@eviltoast.orgEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          To be fair the sugar tax is so ridiculously harsh there is nobody but Coca Cola who hasn’t made their drinks taste horrible instead.

  • freebee@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    43·
    2 days ago

    Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.

  • redlemace@lemmy.worldEnglish
    291·
    2 days ago

    And so: Hello Lemmy! Here I am! Left ‘socials’ like reddit, dropped hotmail and google accounts … i’ts not much but it’s start

  • aldfin@lemm.eeEnglish
    15·
    2 days ago

    Gotten rid of nearly every US digital service I have. Physical stuff I will still probably roll with my Apple devices until they wear out since they’re relatively new, but almost all the data and apps are basically European and/or open source services. Work related stuff remains the challenge. Next phone will be HMD.

  • Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    491·
    2 days ago

    Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.

    • froh42@lemmy.worldEnglish
      291·
      2 days ago

      We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.

      With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.

      We need an Europan open source stack.

    • tty5@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal

      Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675

      Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:

      ANNEX I

      Union response measures pursuant to Article 8

      […]

      1. The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.

      This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.

      • beveradb@lemm.eeEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        This sounds really interesting, do you have a link or anything I could look for in a quick search to learn more?

        • tty5@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          Search for Anti-Coercion Instrument, the one that came into effect in December 2023

    • redlemace@lemmy.worldEnglish
      43·
      2 days ago

      If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his clowns clan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.

        • redlemace@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          You’re entitled to that opinion, and feel free to suggest a change of law, but for now … it’s still the law. And obeying only the laws that suits your goals is very much Trump/MAGA style. Let’s not get down to their level.

  • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    230·
    3 days ago

    While tens of thousands of people have joined Facebook groups in Sweden and Denmark calling for no longer buying American, Norwegian company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced that it will stop supplying US military vessels with fuel.

    This first US company they (and everyone) needs to boycott is Meta.

    • imvii@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      812·
      3 days ago

      I’m in Canada and Facebook is huge for my business. We get more bang out of a free social media post than paying for advertisements anywhere.

      I fricking HATE IT.

      On a personal level, I almost never use facebook. I refuse to put it on my phone and really only use it not to post stuff for the business - which I do through a 3rd party social media app.

      • Magister@lemmy.worldEnglish
        43·
        3 days ago

        FB is huge in Canada for personal stuff too, me and my friends do not post meal pic or vacation or things like this, but damn marketplace and some hobbies group are strong there. Just the “Made in Canada” FB group grew from 50’000 members to 1.1 million in less than a month.

        • suoko@feddit.itEnglish
          49·
          3 days ago

          FB can be easily replaced with Lemmy, it’s just a question of age/generation I guess

          • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            17·
            2 days ago

            no not really, its a totally different thing. you cant follow people here, nobody here uses their real name, and you can’t limit visibility of content to just friends. marketplace is also not a thing, and that feature is not just yet another community

          • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Lemmy is more an alternative to reddit. Friendica is the alternative to FB from the fediverse

          • redwattlebird@lemmings.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Unsure about that in terms of business pages but I suppose you can if you try hard enough: side bar for standard info, posts for events and communication. The only thing it lacks is the followers portion that acts as soft advertisement, e.g. if your friend follows something, you can see it.

          • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            Aren’t there actually tiktok alternatives I’m the Fediverse, rather than suggesting something that’s use case is different?

            Edit: I meant to say Facebook alternatives…

      • Jack@lemmy.caEnglish
        151·
        3 days ago

        “All it takes for evil to succeed, is good people to say, “it’s just business.”” - Janet Leahy, Michael Reisz

      • enemenemu@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Don’t feel bad for using it for your business.

        As you said, a free post is better than paid ads somewhere else. And you don’t use it personally, that’s the great part. Moreover, you use lemmy. Kudos to you

      • Galolinn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        3 days ago

        It was a private company that decided not to provide their refueling services to the American Navy, not the Norwegian government. What the government is saying is that they will not be not doing the same that Haltbakk Bunkers is doing. But this company stays firm. The practical effects will probably be minimal, since they are an important but rather small actor in the sector. But as a Norwegian, I am proud of them! (And not so much of my government).

    • Lanske@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      Absolutely! Remove all meta apps and close your accounts. Zuck is a big suckup to Trump and his software collects and sells your data as if there is no tomorrow

    • Daemonia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      That’s true, but first we need to reach enough people to get the movement going. In the meantime they should just turn on their adblockers.

  • lance20000@lemmy.caEnglish
    10·
    2 days ago

    Good, fuck the USA and it’s garbage products. It’d be harder to do if they weren’t shit now, but perpetually cutting quality is basically the USA’s motto. Now they are experiencing it in the government.

    • useyourvoice@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      Exactly this. And then try and sell us their shitty stuff that’s doused in diseases and add tariffs to it?!?! Just to suck profit out of formerly allied countries, and force them to suffer for your own gain??!

      Big Fuck you USA.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1211·
    3 days ago

    American here: genuinely, go for it. If you want to be even more highly targeted, you can also take a page out of Canada’s book: they’re encouraging people to target things that are produced in red states specifically, in addition to a general push for a boycott. Bourbon (from Kentucky), for instance.

  • Lanske@lemmy.worldEnglish
    171·
    2 days ago

    I know that my country - The Netherlands imports a lot from the US, so i am trying not to. Ditched all my Meta accounts, closed Amazon account/prime and Kindle, moved away from Google to several other services, stopped several streaming services and when we buy products from the supermarket actively check wheter products are from the US, and replace them with local/EU/Canadian products.

    • T00l_shed@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      From Canada, I’ve done the same as you, but I’m struggling to de Google. Any suggestions?

      • Lanske@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        2 days ago
        • Protonmail (i know it gets a lot of backfire on lemmy) and tutamail for mail
        • Proton drive for google drive
        • for travel i use TomoTom Go (amigo is free)
        • Duckduckgo and librewolf as browsers
        • Qwant and Ecosia as search engines

        good luck, and don’t flame me for using Proton lol

      • a Kendrick fan@lemmy.mlEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        GrapheneOS, CalyxOs or LineageOs as an alternative to just using android.

        F-droid and Aurora store for almost all android apps, Obtainium if you can find your way around git forges.

        Tuta mail, Posteo and other alternatives for Gmail.

        Firefox and Thunderbird as replacement for Chrome and Gmail app

        Duckduckgo/Ecosia(uses Microsoft’s Bing), Kagi(good but paid), SearX(free but you can run into limits quickly), Marginalia(nonpaid websites only) :- all are replacements for Google search, also learn to use search bangs to quickly take advantages of different search engine

        i don’t use almost all of Google’s other products but a search would pop up other alternatives. Don’t forget to use Google Takeout if you have an account with them.

        Goodluck!

        • garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          Firefox and Mozilla to a larger extent may be going down the gutter soon. They have been angling towards AI shit, and then their new terms of service debacle this last week makes it clear they want to sell your data for ads.

          I’ve moved from FF to Zen browser, which is a fork. And also Librewolf, another fork.

        • T00l_shed@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          I appreciate it thanks! I’ve been using DDG and fire fox for a while. I’ll have to look up this Google takeout. Thanks again for the tips!

          • Lanske@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            Google take out worked for me to export all my google foto’s so i can save them somewhere else! I was using firefox as well, but moving now towards Librefox, duckduckgo browsers. I also like Vivaldi but not sure how good it is on the privacy meters :)

  • froh42@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    2 days ago

    Migrating cloud servers to European hosters. Give EU money to improve/build a linux desktop. Use that desktop in government, schools, universities… (instead of Windows). Fork Firefox. Host fediverse services and use them where the governments use Twitter / TikTok / Insta.

    Harder: Mandate for mobile phones with a user installable OS (Cyanogen etc.) Force tech companies to provide total transparency about data usage. Cancel any safe harbor agreements.

    In the end, everything the Open Source crowd wished for.

    Btw, I’d have no issues with American / Russian / China hosted open source stuff when we can review what it does. Ah, ok, a “european code review agency” might be a thing.

    • dai@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      Ditch GitHub start using codeberg.

      Plenty of office alternatives, outlook is easily replaced (didn’t know outlook had banner ads until recently, what a shithole)

      If you prefer vscode try codium, some plugins may be missing but so is lots of ms bloat. Kate is a stellar alternative too!

      • froh42@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        Yep, I know that for myself. But I can’t switch away from github as that is where the huge company I work for has its stuff - and it needs convincing the enterprises, not the individuals.

        Personally I just have my own repos which I can move anywhere in an eyeblink. But it takes political power to. move governments, departments and companies.

        For example I have no way to ditch Teams or Outlook, because that’s the accounts my employer set up. I can’t ditch my RSA hardware token, because that’s what my. employer’s customer uses. I can’t ditch. my work phone as only Samsung and Apple are vetted.

        That’s something that needs to change on a pan-europrean level.

  • Harvey656@lemmy.worldEnglish
    581·
    2 days ago

    “Calls for Europe to stop eating garbage food like Americans.” Sounds like a good idea to me.

    • boonhet@lemm.eeEnglish
      20·
      2 days ago

      We have our own garbage food. If you don’t go to McDonald’s or Burger King, you can go to Hesburger or whatever else your region has. Admittedly still inspired by American garbage food, but profits European companies.

        • boonhet@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          2 days ago

          Finland and Baltics mostly. It’s the biggest chain here in Estonia by locations (unless you count gas stations), but probably 2nd in popularity because McDonald’s seems more popular. Idk if they put crack on their fries or what, but it’s just not comparable.

  • AidsKitty@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    1 day ago

    Guess they aren’t really our allies after all. The truth always comes out eventually.

  • customcombos@lemm.eeEnglish
    50·
    2 days ago

    I’m American (embarrassed to say that right now) and came to visit this site to get off Reddit. Even we are exploring non-US options.

    • Spaniard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      Don’t be embarrassed of being an American, you can be embarrassed of your politicians, of the people that represent you without being embarrassed of where you were born. You can criticize all the bads things in your country (and your country has done) while also being proud of the good things!

      But to be fair, you were warned about political parties from the start of your democracy, and even with the warning having just 2 is terrible.