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    1 day ago

    I respectfully disagree about Luke being a mary sue. Empire is literally him training, abandonding said training, and losing a hand and getting his friend frozen; all as a direct result of his established character traits

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        21 hours ago

        Which makes literally zero sense and is the most overwhelming evidence of Star Wars fans being unhinged and ignoring reality to fit their own narrative.

        Luke was a nobody raised in a rural environment with no threats or signs of harm. Rey on the other hand raised herself on a desert planet by herself where no one protected her and she has to protect herself.

        Yet no one has a problem with Luke piloting a military aircraft perfectly a couple days after his aunt and uncle were killed and every problem with Rey swinging a weapon.

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      21 hours ago

      Yeah, Empire is about that. What about A New Hope though? You never commented on that.

      Luke is presented as a character with no real flaws. He is able to wield a lightsaber shockingly quickly with surprisingly little combat ability despite not having any combat training. It isn’t explained, at all, where he got the experience from to pilot a military aircraft through a combat zone and avoid turrets. We’re just told that because he hunted vermin he can hit this exhaust port. Nothing else about his abilities are explained. He just flew on Tattooine so he’s the best pilot to ever exist.

      People keep going THE CHOSEN ONE AND THE FORCE but he’s just a Mary Sue. Given a ton of abilities and importance from the start with no real explanation and Lucas then had to change his own story during the movies to give a reason for it. The Original Trilogy are rife with inconsistencies but nah. Nope. No one ever wants to talk about those because it’ll shatter the image that somehow the original trilogy is perfect.