Whats the point of writing prn, f@ck, sht or anything like that instead of the actual words? You can still read them, its not like they are gone if you replace a letter or two.
Whats the point of writing prn, f@ck, sht or anything like that instead of the actual words? You can still read them, its not like they are gone if you replace a letter or two.
On lemmy.ml at least, there’s a very good reason cause the admins are authoritarians. Can’t even say “bitch” without it getting removed.
Good to know which instance to avoid!
So then that leads to the question: why is lemmy.ml run by a bunch of prudish babies?
A better question is why do you feel the need to die on the hill of using slurs?
Because swearing is a natural part of the human experience and most level headed people don’t feel the need to suppress human expression.
Swearing serves an important biological need to express emotion and communicate. Psychologically, we swear to express strong emotions and when people swear, they are inherently viewed as more trustworthy or honest. Swearing helps people bond.
They’re not talking about swearing. Call someone a fucking shit-eating worm is fine. But on the other hand are words used to insult marginalized groups (women, homosexuals, the mentally disabled, etc.). B/*itch, wh/*ore, c/*nt; c/*cksucker, f/*g; r/*tard, a/*tist, etc.
These are the words being blocked. Not swears, slurs. You can say fuck, shit, damn, and hell all you want.
For what it’s worth, I tend to fall on the side of a little bit being fine. I don’t use those words (except the slurs against w/*men), but if there’s one thing I fucking hate, it’s Scolds. If Felix Biederman wants to call people r/*tards and c/*cksuckers, I think he should be allowed to, and I’m not going to try to cancel him for it.
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I think there’s some miscommunication here. You’re the only person in this thread that brought up slurs. Everyone else is talking about swear words which is a different thing. I don’t think anyone here is saying slurs aren’t bad. What people are saying is it should be ok to use swear words, which you just demonstrated with your comment.
I’m not confused, misogo is so rampant that people don’t even consider them to be slurs, kind of like what used to happen to ableist slurs.
I’m willing to bet a good amount of people in this comment section used to use ableist slurs before they were told not to, because they treat slurs as “words I’m not allowed to say” rather than genuinely not wanting to hurt the groups that said slurs are targeting.
What a gosh darn cunt.
“Bitch” is not a slur. It is a swear. Swears are fine, slurs are not. They are not equivelant, and shouldn’t be treated as such.
I hate ml mods as much as the next guy, but also I would consider “bitch” to be kinda misogynistic in certain context.
The same can be said of any gendered term. That’s honestly a comment on the context more than the word.
If you say the word bitch is as offensive as the f slur, t slur or n word, then you’re saying those slurs are as harmless as the word bitch. If you believe that, I am offended by you. Do not put them in the same group.
see the problem I have here is by banning a word that is used as a slur maybe once every 1000 times you remove the 999 times it was not used as a slur, thereby making the situation worse rather than better. Banning words does fuck all to promote a healthier culture, all it does is make the vultures migrate to the next word they load up with negative connotations
Holy fucking hell. What kind of pearl clutching Victorian era bullshit is that?
because fuck you? /s
Why do you feel the need to bitch about it?
Rape culture.
Because someone said bitch and doesn’t follow your orders?
Lol.
But you’re also probably trolling
Imagine being so far right that you think basic decency is “trolling”
Garbage human.
Definitely trolling
No.
But thank you for establishing the fact you lack the cognitive capacity to engage this thread in good faith.
Whatever, rapist.
Oooh, harder daddy
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I’m just surprised I haven’t been banned from .ml yet for calling out tankies when they do shitty tankie things.
Fun fact 1: if you do get banned or have your comments removed you’ll only know if you check the modlogs. And likely only if you check the modlogs of the instance that took action against you as the modlogs don’t fully sync between each other.
Fun fact 2: you have been in the past, here’s a link to the mod actions against you on .ml
Fun fact 3: and so have I, I only just recently finished a 2 week ban over here on .ml for calling that kind of stuff out on here.
Edit: That didn’t take long @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works looks like you got banned for your comment.
Sounds shit, the admins must be right bitches
“Being polite and using inclusive language is authoritarian”
You can be goddamn polite and still swear without automatically becoming a fucking asshole.
What you say can oftentimes be more important than the words you use to express the idea
Here’s a great stand-up routine that highlights what I mean. Fair warning: there’s some pretty NSFW language in it.
“There are no bad words, but there are several bad ways to express what you mean”
–Me (tho I’m sure someone way smarter than I has put out the same idea, but better worded, ironically enough)
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Although I totally get why lemmy.ml would want to do something like that, it’s not “being polite…”, it’s “enforcing politeness…”
If you gave “authoritarian” to an AI that determined what it meant through it use alone, it would think it means “Won’t let me be a nazi”
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White liberals don’t try to justify using slurs challenge 2023 [IMPOSSIBLE!]
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Oooh ooh oh i’m sooo triggered right now 😒
You know what it’s called when you do something someone has clearly stated they don’t like? It’s called rape culture, but that’s not a conversation any of you crackers are ready to have yet. You all still need to have basic decency explained to you in a youtube essay.
Let’s get something straight right here, rape culture is not simply doing something that someone else has expressed a distaste for. Going into a public forum that you do not own or have control over, asking/telling the people there to act a certain way, and them responding by ignoring that request is not rape culture.
If it was a more private situation, like a group chat among friends, or even a public forum but an individual discussion between a small group of 2-3 people talking directly to each other, respect should be given to requests. If you were having a back and forth conversation with someone, and asked them not to swear while talking with you, they should respect that. But coming into public forum and demanding everyone else adhere to your rules, then spouting “rape culture” if they don’t follow along, is only cheapening the phrase “rape culture” and removing meaning from it.
That rhetoric is the same as when neo-nazis go around saying “lets not cheapen nazi by calling everyone we disagree with nazi”
Not a good look.
No words should be cheapened. None of them. Not Nazi, not Fascist, not woke, and not anything else.
They all have meanings for a reason. Better we all learn them and use em correctly instead of throwing the word at something irrelevant just because we don’t it as if we were children.