• @WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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    08 months ago

    This isn’t an explanation of what I oversimplified that would justify the genocide - it’s just dithering about the definition of genocide. I linked the UN definition in anticipation of your obviously bad-faith questions designed to diminish and distract from that genocide.

    Third and final time: What did I miss in my oversimplification that would justify the genocide Israel is committing against Palestine? You say I’ve oversimplified, but haven’t made any effort whatsoever to correct the record. Why might that be?

    • @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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      08 months ago

      You said that “Israel manufactured the situation”. It’s clear your intention is putting the onus entirely on one side when history shows this is not the case. I’m not going to bother with reiterating the entire history of the region. If we are going to reduce all historic fact to such gross oversimplifications, we might as well say nothing. You may say I’m being pedantic, but your biased messaging is clear. The genocide topic is just a convenient way to sidestep my initial point (even after I conceded the genocide thing) which is why you keep bringing it up. If you can’t engage with one point without having to keep pivoting to these other topics then it’s clear you are either illiterate or just bad faith.

      • @WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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        08 months ago

        So there’s no material context I’ve missed in the oversimplification you’re claiming I’ve engaged in (I’ve asked you many times now), you don’t have a point, and you’re just being a genocide-defending piece of shit that’s too cowardly to own their positions.

        I say this with deepest sincerity - fuck you, you utter waste of a human life.

        • @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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          08 months ago

          You know what I can play the same game and simplify history to my liking. Check this out: Japan manufactured Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Wow. What brilliant insight from scholars such as Waxed. Oh by the way, every time I can’t defend a point I will call the other side guilty of genocide. Brilliant.

          • @WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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            08 months ago

            Yeah - the difference is that I pointed out why.

            Did Japan work to support the rise of a government that wanted to kill them over one that didn’t? I know about the internment camps, but wasn’t aware Japan was turned into an open air concentration camp.

            Whats a genocide?

            Did the US president explicitly say the intended to genocide Japan?

            Was one Japanese soldier being killed a genocide?

            You’re bad faith.

            Did Japan genocide the US, actually?

            If you don’t know the name of the president’s dog’s mother, can you really call this a genocide?

            I don’t support the US.

            Such a dipshitted distraction from the point - you still haven’t pointed out that context I missed in my oversimplification.

    • @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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      08 months ago

      Yooo also from your definition:

      The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique.

      • @WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
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        08 months ago

        They are committed to completely eliminating this evil from the world, (…) You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. And we do remember.

        • Netanyahu (translated) 28/10/23

        Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass

        • 1 Samuel 15:3

        One example. Of course his cabinet are less connected with international politics and are more inclined to use direct language.

        Genocide or not, why are you defending the Israeli government slaughtering tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians - including huge numbers of children indiscriminately? We certainly don’t see Hamas being targeted in the casualty stats.

        • @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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          08 months ago

          Yooo I was never interested in defending Israel. Fuck the IDF. I lived there a while back too. All I did was take issue with your dumb take about the regions history. Edgelords everywhere.