And you still aren’t. How brave. Are you by any chance a fan of Tim Pool?

Yeah, I’m sorry. To continue this conversation would be unfair to you.

Because one is orange and the other isn’t?

And no, they are not equally corrupt. But thank you for the self-report

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You’re right, @lemmywinks@discuss.online insists Trump is better

If dust is the problem then you start at the top and work your way down. Ie Clean ceiling fans, Dust, then wipe surfaces then vacuum.

Do you understand that more drone assassinations happened under Trump than even Obama?

Like that time he assassinated an Iranian general? Total dove that guy: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-no-wars/

People are upset they can’t vote to dismantle the system and so they don’t vote thinking that it somehow withdraws their consent. I feel like that Patrick’s wallet meme where we all agree voting doesn’t do the things we want, including withdrawing consent.

He doesn’t protest anymore, but I get your point. As noted elsewhere, the protests got more attention because the responses were more violent. Is that good? Considering how the police have even more money than before I am not so sure…

If America was a real democracy then our poor turnout figures would invalidate every election back to the founding.

Yeah, it would be nice if our system allowed for withdrawing consent.

No, I’m withdrawing my consent, for all the good that does in this abusive relationship between the state and its citizenry.

I don’t see how that’s consistent with your last sentence. But you do you I guess.

Gives me an idea for a new meme to cover the other half:

“Leftists who won’t vote” 🤝 “Democrats” agree on being “apathetic”.

Yet voting 3rd party sends a signal that many are upset instead of apathetically staying at home. Silent consent is the very thing you accuse Democrats of in a sister thread.

Even when liberals are shown protests on TV, they often walk away with the wrong message. It seems the only time it doesn’t happen is when the state uses violence in a way that is indefensible.

Gather around for a personal story.

The year was 2015 and a friend who lives in a school bus visited town. We were all smoking weed in his bus and he said “Oh please let Clinton loose”. I asked WTF are you thinking? And he responded that he spent lots of time protesting and that it didn’t work because people weren’t listening. It seems no matter how many terrible fascists get elected, liberals still won’t listen to him.

I hate how the Bible is being used as a nationalist prop. Nationalism was a theme of the old testament and Jesus called his followers to move beyond national identity. But that’s how fascism works, it apropariates instead of actually creating something new.

If you aren’t familiar with Project 2025 there’s a good video deep dive here: https://youtu.be/dk7sCJalxAo

MAGA wants revenge and it isn’t limited to just liberals.

In my household Jesus is nonbinary and their resurrection was the first day of their new life after transitioning.