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  • How are people supposed to control the government?

    Through elections.

    The government is controlled by govt officials.

    That we elected.

    How can a government be owned by people?

    Through democracy.

    Is government even a property that can be owned?

    If I ask a friend to water my plants, do I no longer own the plants?



  • yucandu@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlAmericans and socialism
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    I think we should absolutely be learning from Lenin and the USSR.

    Learning from their mistakes. Not emulating a failed brutal authoritarian dictatorship.

    I don’t see what is “backfiring,”

    Americans fear the word “socialism” because they associate it with brutal authoritarian dictatorships. Your love of Lenin and the USSR isn’t helping with that.

    The PRC learned from what succeeded and what failed in the Soviet Union, and is currently overtaking everyone else.

    The only thing the PRC learned was to abandon socialism. Canada is more socialist than the PRC.

    You keep linking books to read. I think we’ve read enough. It’s time to start writing.



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    A worker cooperative in an economy dominated by private Capital is not an instance of Socialism, as it depends on the broader Capitalist system.

    I’ve already addressed how this absolutism doesn’t track with logic, I just hope people stop repeating it so we can get some actual socialism in this world.



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    By this absolutist logic, a socialist country is not a “socialist” part of a capitalist world, because it exists in the broader capitalist machine and must use its tools.

    What is the point then? If you don’t want to call anything “socialism” until the very last human on earth is socialist, fine, I will focus more on improving people’s lives than haggling over definitions.



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    I don’t think we should be emulating Lenin or the USSR. I think that’s what is backfiring.

    “Read theory” is how they trick us, forcing us into dogmatic religious-like application of historical texts.

    Why don’t we write theory? Marx and Lenin weren’t gods. They got things wrong.



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    14 hours ago

    I’m Canadian. It’s what the founder of our healthcare system, Tommy Douglas, called it.

    And yeah, it’s the people owning the means of producing health. Socialist healthcare.

    Americans scare people with these references to brutal authoritarian dictatorships that call themselves “socialist” but the real cause of all these problems is that they weren’t democratic, not that they socialized industries.

    Anyways, maybe it’s just my autism making me literal as fuck, but I think you guys need to clear that up. This is what the people owning the means of production looks like. It’s always going to be adjacent to capitalism, whether it’s a socialist industry in a capitalist country, or a socialist country in a capitalist world.






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    20 hours ago

    Lisa’s only mistake was saying yes.

    Just do every single thing in socialism, but change every single word. Call it Americanism.

    Proletariat? No, just “worker”.

    Bourgeoisie? No, just “elites”.

    Capital? “Stuff”. Like how in baseball they say a pitcher’s got good “stuff”. Use your human stuff.

    Class Consciousness - “common sense”.

    Dialectical Materialism - Idk I’m still trying to figure out wtf that one means.




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    In a democratic state, things like universal healthcare are also called “socialized medicine” because it is an example of the people owning the means of production in that particular industry.

    That’s why most countries are what we call “mixed economies”, that mix elements of capitalism and socialism.

    Norway mixes in a higher ratio of socialism to capitalism than most countries. But they don’t export any more of capitalism’s issues to the third world than other countries. It’s something to emulate, not discredit.