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  • They serve vastly different purposes. Lemmy would be a terrible place for people to chat about how their days are going, which is a key part of what microblogging platforms provide to be honest. And conversely, for structured conversations focused on specific topics, Lemmy has obvious advantages.

    Beyond the basic structure, there are cultural issues with both that make them a bit tenuous for me.




  • So, the complicated bit about the fediverse is that there’s not one “the space”, there’s thousands of different spaces from which bad actors would need to be ejected. And, of course, not everyone will agree on who constitutes a bad actor, in fact there’s a huge range of different standards applied.

    This leads to a situation where you just find out one day that some of your fediverse neighbors/acquaintances are hanging out with the nazi you blocked years ago. The nazi was out of sight out of mind to you because you had already blocked them, but if they’re low-key and mostly post normal stuff, it’s easy for your more casual neighbors not to notice. Not saying the parties involved here are nazis per se, just as a for instance.

    The community uses the #fediblock hashtag to raise awareness of bad actors, primarily for the benefit of instance admins so they can update their block lists. There is a communal expectation that admins would be conversant with this.

    There are also tools like these to aggregate that information, but currently it’s hard to get much out of them in terms of complete and human-readable context. (They’re primarily designed as tools to support instance admins rather than individual users.)

    This whole thing is constantly happening on the fediverse and that part of the story would be completely unremarkable if the firefish dev wasn’t running a flagship instance and developing software.

    If, as an instance admin (who we know was even in the discord channel where the admins are discussing this stuff) wasn’t keeping up with fediblock, that’s a red flag for the instance. The fact that he was also (even accidentally) associating with far-right software dev people to host his code is also a red flag, because, why wouldn’t you do some due diligence about that? (This should be a familiar issue to developers in this space, because, alas, there are a lot of nazi/nazi-adjacent people developing software that uses activitypub!)

    Anyway, all of that doesn’t necessarily make the firefish dev a bad guy, it just makes him look kind of like inspector fucking clouseau, you know?

    If it’s true that he’s also doctoring screenshots to make another instance admin (who is a recognized leader in fediverse community moderation standards) look bad, then that elevates the issue A LOT, especially for someone who is trying to get a lot of folks to adopt his software.







  • Lol what does any of that wall of text have to do with “diversity.”

    There’s not much drama here tbh; “admin defederates a somewhat controversial instance and some people agree and some people don’t” is, as other commenters have said, very business as usual for the fediverse.

    I do think it’s natural in lemmy for people on other instances to have takes about defed calls because they may use communities on one of those two servers, or both, and be impacted as defederation splits the user bases. But it feels like most of the “drama” here is just free speech maximalist/libertarian trolling.