A comrade never forgets

your last point is something i honestly cant understand in any way possible. how the fuck do you think that deng “course corrected” chinese foreign policy?? should i describe to you the kinds of crimes that the mujahedeen or the khmer rouge were committing? deng easily had the worst foreign policy of any chinese leader and the damages are still noticable to this day. ffs he even let the cia build spy networks within china for use against the soviet union.

Yeah I mean more towards the late 80s/90’s, China stopped becoming as blatant at this stuff; the support of khmer rogue remains a massive stain on China’s legacy though I agree, but I also think in reaction to it is why they are less keen to start sending guns to Palestine as they are aware of the lasting damage intervening in conflicts/acting like a hard power that had on themselves.

even today, after the xi jinping administration has thankfully alleviated some of the problems that i just described, the chinese economy still hasnt returned to a socialist framework.

It seems more or less where the USSR was in the late 70s, just with a more robust eco and less blood libel that the US is able to levy against it + more labor power.

while nowadays all the western stories about “chinese sweatshops” are usually complete bullshit, they were indeed accurate descriptions of labor conditions in the 80s, 90s and 00s.

Id argue this is more because of the economics levied onto them that they where a victim of really through stuff like the WEF leveraging their stagnating eco with population control measures and forcing them into that spot after the sino-soviet split due to otherwise being completely isolated on the world stage.

the economic policies of the cpc after mao led to the re-emergence of capitalist relations in china. by allowing private ownership of enterprises and encouraging market competition, dengs reforms created a class of capitalists who were able to accumulate significant wealth and power.

Which ones? I feel like you say this but without much to back it up, if there are capitalist classes above the CPC’s reach im not seeing it, at least in Xi’s current conception the highest class in China remains the worker elected party member due to the relations of violence and superstructre they have with it vs the lack of that inside China’s bougie class.

All things said I do agree with you in broad strokes, we shouldn’t with blind eyes support China, but I find it hard to levvy too much blame towards them for Isreal given the history and lessons they will have internalized with the failures of the Vietnam and Afghanistan interventions respectively, I think the upper cadre is doing a ‘China first, war through economics not physical force’ type of vibe. I dont know if we should want or expect China to act in similar ways to the USA where they do diplomacy through the bomb first.

While they could be doing more with Isreal and we should expect more they do still act as the bank for the axis of resistance id say, they just need to remain semi-neutral in order to not widen the alienation and narratives put forward by the west which would make their continued economic success harder, it is ultimately not much to do with them; they didnt start the war, and they have always diplomatically supported palestine and argued for the return of the golan heights to palestine.

the occupations biggest trading partner despite the current genocide.

This just seems blatantly untrue, do you have a source for this claim?

(sorry in advance of the wikispooks screen grab, its just a short summary of counter examples)

Yes they are asias largest trading partner (of non-military economic goods) but they are also leveraging them economically with sanctions and diplomatically support Palestine.

Its similar to how they export the most to America, they use their economic hard power in order to beat countries over the head with if they dont align with them in foreign policy goals, which in this instance is pro-palestine.

after maos death in 1976, the cpc, under the leadership of deng xiaoping, implemented a series of neoliberal economic reforms that completely superseded even the worst excesses of khrushchevs liberalizations. these reforms, which included the privatization of state-owned enterprises and the opening up of china to foreign investment, led to the creation of a new capitalist class in china and dramatic widening of economic inequality. even today, the wages of the chinese proletariat are purposefully depressed for the benefit of western imperialist exploiters and many workers, especially those toiling abroad, have to live in conditions not even fit for animals. the county has an unemployment rate of 6% (youth unemployment rate at 20%), an issue literally unheard of in soviet society, and the right to strike has been removed from the constitution in the mid 1980s.

I think the significance of these reforms is over-stated given that the modern CPC is flourishing because of these reforms. It fits neatly into my understanding of ‘progression thru capitalism to achieve socialism’ model that Deng put China on, rather than what I have come to understand as idealist ‘press the socialist button to become socialist’ (skipping capitalisms stages idealism)

I dont know how you can suggest China is capitulated when they routinely execute billionares, retain ideological control of capital for workers (90% house ownership rate, no significant landlord class, the best public infrastructure in the world ect)

The biggest criticism I do agree with you on is their foreign policy between 1950-1990, it kinda sucked, not gonna lie; I do believe Deng was the person who course corrected them though and I disagree with your wider assessment they betrayed socialism.

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dramatic widening of economic inequality. even today, the wages of the chinese proletariat are purposefully depressed for the benefit of western imperialist exploiters and many workers, especially those toiling abroad, have to live in conditions not even fit for animals. the county has an unemployment rate of 6% (youth unemployment rate at 20%)

The lack of high wages really doesnt mean much at face value without considering wages>quality of life ratio, Chinese employers can pay less money to workers because rent isnt a consideration for most workers; if you imagine you just removed the need to rent a home to live in from most workers lives, in turn your employer no longer needs to consider the fact you need to pay rent into wage calculations, cheap housing is what is allowing china to outcompete the entire world for its labour as no other country has managed to implement such wide ranging worker control of housing to the scale China has accomplished.