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Given the political conditions of the US at the moment, fucked as the material ones are, I’m going to say adventurist. There would not be MASS support for that kind of thing in droves large enough to spark revolution.

Now, many folks would be in support of it, and it would likely radicalize people further/spur them to action. But again, the primary contradiction in the US today is not having a communist party leading the working class. Because a majority of people aren’t in tune/don’t know who these guerillas are, it would be framed as individual terrorist activities and swept under the public eye, no matter the effectiveness.

We aren’t there yet, in my opinion. But give it time, trust.

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No. This amounts to throwing your hands in the air and giving up. Work needs to be put in to build something of value. And not all of them are revisionist or whatever. PSL and FRSO are both good options.

That was a very interesting substack.

I think, if that is true - then what does it matter? I might as well just use shit until it’s officially “gone” or whatever. I do agree it’s on the way out, btw. At least the form we have now. I’m not sure how the world is going to proceed from that.

This is a great idea - but it needs to be backed and endorsed by an organization. You’re correct that lack of organization is the number one obstacle/contradiction when it comes to boycotts being effective. That means that we probably would need to have a respected and large(ish) organization use it and set a good precedent with it before it would get big enough.

Typically I respond with the obvious “they’re not” answer - but even if they were - it’s important to realize who the real enemy is in that situation. These people are often coming from war-torn or poverty-stricken countries, primarily BECAUSE OF U.S. CAPITALISM AND IMPERIALISM. They wouldn’t even be here if they weren’t forced by horrific material conditions.

I ask the person to consider if they would want to leave everything, their family, common language, homeland, for no reason other than “my life might be a little better there” and the answer is obviously no. The immigrants they are concerned about (the poor, desperate brown ones - not the rich French or x “white” ones) are coming out of absolute desperation and taking shitty jobs that often aren’t even ones they’d be doing in the first place. They are the most exploitable and therefore most exploited people. They have much more in common with you (the x ignorant or racist person) than you do with any of these people you see on TV. Why don’t you stop blaming them and punching down and focus that energy on uniting with others like you - working class people - and take some action instead of posting racist memes on Facebook?

Setbacks and temporary failures are not indicative of a permanent failure. The capitalists are obviously going to swing back. But ultimately the people punch harder

I wouldn’t say equally important, only because in the situation of someone doing 100% online work compared to someone doing 100% physical life work, you’d obviously prefer the latter.

However it’s important to recognize the very real benefits online communist activity has. Fuck, that’s what got me involved. That’s where I got most of my information. It’s where I learned to discuss well, it played a humongous developmental role in becoming a communist that does things irl too.

Like others have said, we need tech spaces not controlled by major corporations. We need places that don’t censor us, that we can confidently post things and organize on. Especially when things get more spicy here in the states. That is, in my opinion, a real life benefit.

We can’t expect just working online to change anything, but we sure as hell can use the crazy amount of people online and useful tools that the internet has to bolster our movement. Full solidarity with our software commies.

*I’d like to make an edit/clarification because after thinking some more, they’re about as close to being equally important as you can get in today’s age. Specifically in the west. Even in the scenario I created earlier, it’s better to have both of those people than just one, because the online-commie can absolutely assist the real-life commie in many tangible and not tangible ways. I think of the research done and articles gathered from those of us on this platform, that never could’ve happened if it were just me researching. Having a, for lack of a better term, think tank designed for us is really important for developing correct ideas and discussion.

Right.

Maybe. This world is rapidly deteriorating, and we’ve likely already set in many feedback loops that, even if we did a global communism tomorrow at noon, we’d still suffer severe consequences.

This doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. We absolutely still have a chance at humanity’s survival, and a good one at that.

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The one you can actually join.

If you’re in a large city, and have choices, my recommendation is FRSO. They are not a party, but kind of function as one. It will make more sense when you read about them and talk to a member. You can DM me and I can give you more information if you’re interested.

It is true, what diegeticscream said about not one party winning the revolution at the end of it. It’s going to be the masses, first and foremost, and many parties will likely come together or spar when the time comes. Just due to the nature of the US’s consciousness, or lack thereof, there will not be a dominant workers party here in the US for a long time. Longer than we have to carry out a revolution before a total fascist descent and climate change destroys everything. So it’s going to be mass organizations that veer more radical under leadership of communists who work with the people, not an explicit communist party. At least, that’s what I’ve picked up in my 6 months of organizing. I might revise that as time goes on.

My answer still remains the one you can actually join. Just get off your cheeks, every little thing counts. Even a conversation. Sure, it’s not material the way we think of it, but those words are creating some kind of thought process in another’s head, which may lead them to venture and learn more and become a great communist one day. That’s how we all got here, no? Didn’t just wake up as a tankie. Qualitative changes only come after many many quantitative ones. Those quantitative ones have to be built by us. So do SOMETHING and do not get discouraged when you’re months in and haven’t changed much. The one you can actually join and participate in is the best party for you.

That’s not to say there isn’t a “best” ML organization in the US, and for that my answer is also unchanged, I say FRSO.

So are you saying that because the artisinal/manual mining is falling, and if China owns most of it, then it would follow that (if they really are responsible) that they’re responsible for things getting better.

Just typing it out to conceptualize, I’m pretty sure that’s what you’re saying and I agree then.

Forgive ME for not knowing this but… what is artisinal mining? I’m assuming it means by hand and for a living versus like, working for a company and using machines (better conditions?)

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm.

The typical “China is imperialist because they build hospitals and bridges in other countries and benefit both parties” IS bullshit.

But I am not educated enough about this to say that this is not some form of imperialism. So I’m asking.

The point of protests (in proper revolutionary movements) is to gather support and get your agenda out there so that it is un-ignorable.

Violent protest is the only useful protest if your criteria for useful is government change. But we know government change isn’t coming without revolution or at the very least the serious threat of it.

So yes and no.

I mean you covered some pretty serious solutions, but the only things I can think of (I’m not an expert) are the indoor/vertical/hydroponic farming mentioned above, or genetically modifying crops to withstand horrible conditions, or the good 'ole painting houses and streets white to lower temperatures.

There’s probably a lot more information out there, but I’m just not aware of most of it. I know mostly about how bad things are, not necessarily how we should fix it quickly.

It goes without saying the only way we sustainably fix it will be under socialism.

Yep, exactly.

It is true, and it is much worse than what mainstream lets on or the average psyche understands.

The IPCC is heavily incentivized (coerced) to let out conservative/watered-down data because of the capitalist funding and the panic/heavy depression that would result as a release of the information we actually know.

Unfortunately, it is already too late to save a large chunk of humanity and life in general on this planet. Unfortunately, there will be horrible things happening (already are) at a large scale that will probably not be solved by smart people somewhere.

This shouldn’t paralyze you, like we can’t give up. It’s not like an “over, or not over” thing, it’s still a spectrum and 4 degrees of warming is exponentially worse than 2.7 or whatever. But we need to be realistic and start developing harm reduction and not pretend we can stay below 1.5 or whatever garbage the MSM is still spewing.