HOWEVER… The entire point of the amnesty, is to make it illegal for ownership of certain firearms, make them illegal to resell, etc., but you give people incentive to give up and make money from the ones they shouldn’t own

The issue is the antigun groups are targeting rifles. You know how many people are killed by rifles a year? 1.5-2.5k, this is all rifles and shotguns combined. You know how many people are killed by AR-15s a year? 50-100…yea the weapon of choice for murder here in the states is handguns. It’s not about keeping people safe, it’s about virtue signaling to their base.

Over time, you end up with far less guns in circulation.

Pandora’s box is open here. There is no closing it

That’s what happened here in Australia.

Not really, you all now have more guns in civ hands than before the ban. Ratio wise it’s less but that’s because you have more people.

You might still have a huge amount of firearms, but the aim isn’t to solve the problem overnight. But, it saves a huge amount of the problem immediately, and over time, it solves the issue…

Unless you plan on banning knives, which kill around 3.5k a year (yes that’s correct more than all rifles and shotguns combined) then it’s not about saving lives. It’s about saving certain lives.

It works… It worked for us. You’re playing the short game.

It worked for you, because you have safety nets. You don’t have a shit ton of gangs and drugs flowing through the streets. You don’t have cartels 4 foot from your boarder. You also don’t have the population size we do.

You’re trying to argue that unless the solution is 100%, it isn’t worth pursuing.

No, I’m arguing that it’s a solution that will not work for even 5%. As I have explained above, rifles which are the targets, make up basically nothing when it comes to firearm deaths. Yet they’re the constant focus. If we’re to fix our violence issue here in the USA, we need to help get people to stop being violent first.

No, but we have some of the most effective protection against shootings in the world. So it would be silly to ignore a working solution. We don’t have a lot of the things on that list

You have some major ones on that list. You for one don’t lock up everyone who is a non violent drug offender to the point that you create broken homes which fuels gang membership. You don’t have qualified immunity either, which here in the USA, 1 in 40 of our gun deaths is by the police. (Yes you read that correctly, the police here kill on average 1k Americans a year via firearms). You have single payer healthcare, you give a shit about your citizens and have safety nets. We lack so much that it drives our citizens into poverty and creates prime circumstances for violence.

You in Australia did not have anywhere near the firearms we have in civ hands. Even then, the forced confiscation you did only 60% turned in their firearms. You know what %60 leaves here in the states? Over 100 million firearms in civ hands.

The drug wars target mainly minorities which cause parents to go to jail, and kids to turn to gangs. It absolutely has an effect on our gun violence. Which the mass majority of our violence comes from is gang related, not random shootings like you hear in the news.

Correct. The majority of our prison is non violent drug offenders, who lose their children, which end up in bad situations…which cause some of them to turn to gangs for that family role. It’s a cycle that feeds violence, and the most fucked up part, is it drastically effects minorities more than anyone else.

Even just single payer would drastically help our citizens health

Welcome to “bigotry 101”…o it says your trans here…denied…o you have adhd…denied… depression…denied…ptsd from a previous rape…denied.

Absolutely! Add in maternity/paternity leave that allows the parents to bond with their child for at least 6 months.

Yea I wrote that in the AM without my brain having been fully awake lol fixed the formating cause that was a hot mess to read.

If the dems had a spine they’d use their antigun capital on getting single payer passed. It would probably cut gun deaths in half alone.

Here I’ll fix our problem

Pay teachers more

Build more schools to reduce class sizes

Make sure all kids have access to school food 3 meals a day

Single payer healthcare

Increased mental healthcare facilities and workers so kids don’t turn to suicide

Improve safety nets

End the war on drugs

End for profit prison system

End qualified immunity

Hey look gun violence has dropped like a hot rock…

But no please keep doing the same shit and spend political capital on shit a very large portion of the usa doesn’t want.

Or … stop working for religious institutions that have policies like this

See if you can find a farm vet, they’ll come to your house and euthanize you’re pet with you there and then you can bury him yourself on your own property.

Why …why are there so many can crushing videos… I’d thought I’ve seen everything on the net by now

Yup, there have been a lot of reports of vultures getting sick or dying from improperly disposed animals.

Yea that’s what I’m doing lol

Starlink doesn’t cover the globe, it’s available in the Americas, Europe and Oceania. It’s not available in most of Africa, the Middle East, India, China, Russia, Indochina. E.g. the majority of the world cannot access Starlink.

https://www.starlink.com/map

China/russia/middle east not allowing it, is not the same as not being available. Did you even check the coverage map before replying.

I don’t give a shit that Starlink is owned by Musk. Starlink as a company seems fine (it’s not X or anything), but I strongly dislike that their product messes with astronomy in such a major way that astronomists complain about it every chance they get.

Astronomers complain about light bleed from ground cities as well. No one was telling them to shut down the cities.

Sounds like your fight is with “big telecom” and with your local government for not putting up a good enough quote to run fiber. This isn’t an issue for large portions of the world, including rural areas, where they’ve figured out how to get them to lay fiber.

Lol no just no… I dont know where you live but the majority of people in rural areas are not served, otherwise starlink would have never taken off and been sustainable. You think businesses just make products for a few people and break even?

Access is not the same as high-speed access. Almost all of the world has some level of access, even in rural areas, through sattelites that are not in LEO. Enough to (slowly) browse, not enough to stream in HD. I don’t believe sacrificing considerable astronomical discoveries and progress is remotely worth it when feasible alternatives are available and have been used in large areas of the world already.

Again this myth you keep spouting that the majority of the world has access is bullshit, and the idea that you’re basically telling people, well planes exist but you need to walk because you live to far from the airport is some classist bullshit.

Lol what a childish thing to say

Completely agreed, but at that point, just use nitrogen, it’s insane that this isn’t the standard practice.

It’s like the entire russian military is run by zapp brannigan.

“Surprise!”

There are more and more vets that are using firearms now on farms to euthanize because the drugs they use also cause panic. A 9mm round to the brain instantly incapacitates the animal, they don’t even know what happens. It’s the kindest way to euthanize your animals, anyone telling you the cocktail of drugs or co2 is more humane is full of shit.

Well Peanut Hamper is a stupid name!