• enbyecho@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    LOL. I’m pretty sure saying “that is just homophobia, by the way” is exactly trying to tell people what they can and can’t say.

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      5 hours ago

      I disagree. If someone came up to me and said “Buenos dias! Donde estas el bano?” and I was like “that is Spanish, by the way”, I have simply made an observation and have not implied that they aren’t allowed to speak Spanish.

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        4 hours ago

        LOL. And you seriously don’t see the difference between “hey that’s homophobic” and someone speaking a different language and pointing that out?

        Wow. Ok then.

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          4 hours ago

          No. “That’s homophobic” and “That’s Spanish” are simply statements of fact. It’s left up to the listener whether they should continue being homophobic or speaking Spanish after it’s been pointed out. It sounds like you’ve chosen to double down on homophobia. Not the choice I’d make, but you do you. Nobodys stopping you. No es mi problema.

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            4 hours ago

            Honestly? You don’t make any sense to me. Hopefully you make sense to you.

            It sounds like you’ve chosen to double down on homophobia.

            I’m gay. If a black person uses the N word in a joke are you as presumably Not A Black Person going to instantly assume they are racist? Or will you stop to ask why?

            I’m not saying a black person can’t be racist or a gay person can’t be offensive to other people or even have latent homophobia. But as simplistic as it sounds that’s literally the basic argument here. Many straight people saying “hey thar that’s homophobic” and one gay person at least saying “nah, that’s funny” and being downvoted to hell.

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              3 hours ago

              But as simplistic as it sounds that’s literally the basic argument here.

              The basic argument of this conversation, between the two of us, was that you claimed people were censoring you, and I pointed out that making observations or even judgement calls about what you said doesn’t prevent you from saying it. Absolutely no one is stopping you from saying whatever you want. I don’t think anyone even tried to. I sure didn’t.

              If you want to turn it into “well I’m gay so I can say homophobic things without judgement, like black people saying the n-word” you’ll have to do it alone because I have no interest in participating in that discussion.

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                    53 minutes ago

                    Perhaps the words don’t mean what you think they mean.

                    This is not calling them gay as an insult. If it were saying “they are so gay” meaning “they are so bad” then yes. But this is drawing parallels between their behavior and that of gay people in an ironical way in order to highlight their hypocrisy. And frankly to taunt them.